Talk:Research (EU2012)

What does C+5 mean? Hobbes 21:35, 10 October 2012 (EDT)

I thought I put in an explanation... must've been on the wrong page. I was thinking we need a way to normalize the difficulty level and the number of scientists. We could try to list it in short form (Classic & 5 scientists) result in a Normal (8 days) time. We could also just cite the code numerical values. Or something completely different. We also need to find a way to simplify the prerequisites; late game research is going to end up with a long list, unless maybe we just cite the last highest one and everybody assumes you need all the stuff under it to get there of course. Robbx213 21:47, 10 October 2012 (EDT)

I think it's too much information for one page. We can either create pages for the 9 research areas (where you receive bonuses from live interrogations) or we start making individual pages for each research topic. Hobbes 22:22, 10 October 2012 (EDT)

I'd actually like to see a page for each topic that goes into detail for each item (pictures, cross-referenced chains, production information, information on associated research credits, extended tables to determine research time, etc) while having the main Research page provide a general overview. Possibly in a small table format listing the topic, how it is obtained, and minimum number of scientists for it. That way people would have the basic information readily available while keeping any spoilers hidden. ~ Drakalu 02:12, 11 October 2012 (EDT)

A prerequisites always only refer to the closest lower branch, not list all research projects up to that.

True, but some of the mid to late game projects seem to require more than one technology to be researched prior to it becoming available. Firestorm is one example.

"C+5" is ambiguous and hard to understand. Better to list all costs and times at normal difficulty, and then either write out the difference (Classic: +2 days) or the acutal number (Classic: 8 days).

I don't think Results should be listed on this page at all, since it kinda spoils to much. Better to use this page as a springboard to other pages (perhaps individual pages) with more specific data. --Kokkan 07:06, 11 October 2012 (EDT)

When we go with individual pages, we can just create a Navbar for easy navigation between the pages. I already thought of doing 1 for the XCOM subsection of the table, with the major pages.

Kokkan, do you have a template for navbars? I thought of using one of the old ones from the original game section but I remembered that you may have something better. Hobbes 09:39, 11 October 2012 (EDT)

We don't know the baseline for most of the research techs yet, aside from the starting ones. Keeping track of the difficulty, number of current scientists, and number of days from multiple sources is the only way we'll be able to determine the base time and time decrease/scientist. I like the navbar idea and figured it would be added later after the meat had been added to the sections. ~ Drakalu 10:02, 11 October 2012 (EDT)

No, I can't say I know of a template suitable enough. --Kokkan 11:48, 11 October 2012 (EDT)

End Game Spoilers

We need to come up with some policy for this. I've already noticed a few spoilers (I already know the game end from the demo files) and I think it might be nice to have this info somewhat buried and concealed so that you really have to dig it up (and not see a spoiler by accident). What do you guys think Hobbes 14:52, 11 October 2012 (EDT)