Talk:TFTD

Entry organization

• Where to put weapon comparisons? Some have their own pages, and some are in the entry for the TFTD weapon.
• Where to put ammo information? Some ammo (Hydrojet etc.) are on the weapon entry, and some also have their own entry.. Maybe it's best to have the ammo entries redirect to the weapon entry and put all the info there?
• UFOs or USOs? The game still refers to "UFOpedia", but I guess USO is more clear... Cesium 01:21, 12 February 2010 (EST)

My take on those questions:

• Not entirely sure about that, though Weapon Analysis is a rather universal page for any form of weapon comparison between or within the first two games. Apocalypse got its own section since it can't be as easily compare as the first two stat for stat.

• As for the ammo - if we follow the in-game convention, human weapons have their ammo in the weapon ufopaedia entry, whereas the alien weapons have the ammo as a separate entry. There are two ways to go about it - we can put the ammo in separate pages or use redirects and combine them into a single page. Each method has its benefit, so I'll go with what's accepted by the majority. Having the ammo in separate pages would make it a lot easier to create a universal description template - I've been scratching my head on how to draft up a table that efficiently combines the ammo and weapon stats for ages now.

• Ufopedia is the official in-game description. Note the "e" instead of "ae". I don't mind it in particular, but there is some resistance to the use of "USO". It wasn't used in TFTD, and didn't really come into official terminology until Interceptor (I think in David Ellis' official strategy guide). As they are used in the game: Alien Submarine or Alien Sub would be the best way to describe the ships with the least amount of strife. -NKF 02:19, 12 February 2010 (EST)

• I'm referring to the text itself. e.g. Sonic Pistol has a comparison in the entry, while Heavy_Plasma_vs_Sonic_Cannon is a separate entry.

• I think it's more "researched vs starting" weapons, not "alien vs human". TFTD also has separate entries for gauss ammo. I'm curious about the "universal description template", what do you refer to? Cesium 02:55, 12 February 2010 (EST)

In the early days, the comparisons were put directly into the main articles, but as we've added the analysis section and have since adopted taking a more neutral point of view for the factual articles, the comparisons are being phased out of the articles and move to the analysis section. We haven't quite caught them all I'm afraid.

As for "researched vs starting" and "alien vs human", I guess that's true. Originally UFO didn't have separate ammo entries for its laser weapons (not having any to begin with!), so it was "human vs. alien". When TFTD introduced 3 extra items to make the ammo, they got separate ufopaedia entries and it became "researched vs. starting.".

As for the template, check the Talk:Pistol page. Been yonks since I worked on it. Am also working on a similar version for the alien stats. I was hoping to make something simple, but the amount of variables that you need to plug in, and I'm not that hot with table formatting, makes the whole template rather unwieldy. Maybe several short templates would work better. -NKF 05:42, 12 February 2010 (EST)

Scoring Link

SHouldn't the scoring link go to its own page or at least the EU Equivilant--Ditto51 04:46, 4 September 2013 (EDT)

Laying the Table Out like that of the EU 1994 Table

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The table for EU (1994) has a separate column for X-COM, the bases and exomnics and so on which was kept separate from the UFO Detection and Interception Pages.

UFO: Enemy Unknown (aka X-COM: UFO Defense)
Overview General Information Background OpenXcom The Geoscape Geoscape UFO Detection UFO Interception X-COM X-COM Bases Base Facilities Manufacturing Research Country Funding X-COM Craft Craft Armaments Soldiers Equipment Weapons Armour Heavy Weapons Platforms Miscellaneous Equipment Aliens Alien Life Forms Overview of Aliens Alien Missions Alien Ranks UFOs UFO Components Alien Artefacts	The Battlescape (Tactical Combat) Battlescape Mission Types UFO Crash Recovery UFO Ground Assault Alien Base Assault Terror Missions Base Defence Tactics Field Manual Night Missions Squad Composition Rear Commanders Initial Deployment Scouting Sweeping the Battlescape Time Management Reaction Training Reaction Fire Triggers Alien Movement Patterns Grenades Proximity Grenade Smoke Grenade Grenade Relay Stun Rod	Game Strategies A Beginner's Guide Base Management Base Layout Strategy Experience Training Economics Buying/Selling/Transferring Hiring/Firing UFO Recovery Values Manufacturing Profitability Tricks, Tips and Hints Common Mistakes Managing the Item Limit Making the Game Harder Murphy's Laws of X-COM Miscellaneous Information X-COM Timeline Weapon Analysis Sightings in other fandoms Glossary of Terms Data Canisters Realistic Equivalents Cultural Influences on X-COM Mars Game Editors & Mods Council of Funding Nations The Mysteries of X-COM Wish_List_(EU) GUS Music in Dosbox Ideal DOSBox Settings (UFO/TFTD)	Technical Information Game Mechanics Damage Explosions Destroying Terrain Damage Modifiers Fatal Wounds Stun Accuracy Formula Reaction Fire Experience Psionics Unconsciousness Recovery Time Equipment Recovery Line of Sight Difficulty Levels Research Technical Details Data Tables Alien Appearance Ratios Inventory TU Table Movement TU Tables Item Weight Unit Height Scoring Kill Modelling Starting Stats Alien Stats Research Times Terrain Exploits Game Files Known Bugs Game Versions Open Questions

X-COM: Terror From the Deep
General General Information Background OpenXcom The Geoscape Geoscape X-COM Subs Sub Armaments Aquanauts Equipment Weapons Submersible Weapons Systems Base Facilities Research Alien Research Alien Artefacts Economics Funding Aliens Alien Life Forms Overviews of Aliens Alien Missions Alien Ranks Terror Units Alien Weapon Loadouts Alien Subs Alien Sub Components	The Battlescape (Tactical Combat) Battlescape Overview Mission Types Alien Sub Crash Recovery Alien Submarine Assault Terror Mission Port Attack Island Attack Shipping Lane Mission Artefact Site Colony Assault Base Defense T'leth Terrain	Game Strategies TFTD Strategy Guide Miscellaneous Weapon Effectiveness tables Weapon Analysis Realistic Equivalents Sightings in other fandoms Enabling the cinematic intro/outro Wish List GUS Music in Dosbox Ideal DOSBox Settings (UFO/TFTD) Technical Information Scoring Data Tables Alien Appearance Ratios Game Files Known Bugs Research Tree Bug Avoidance Guide

They just appear to be extremely different for two games that were virtually the same with the exception of TFTD being an extremely hard expansion like game. --Ditto51 18:02, 5 September 2013 (EDT)