User:8wayz

Hello there. I just had a look at the updated layout for the Long War pages, and IMO it allows for better reading if you keep the infoboxes to the right of the page rather than the left. Otherwise people have to look where the actual text starts and that gets tiring and disrupts reading. f you check Wikipedia, or even open a book or a newspaper you can see that text is usually always on the left and graphs/boxes/pics on the right. This is due to how our brains are conditioned to better process information (or at least in the Western countries, where we read from left to right. In the East or Muslim countries the opposite applies)Hobbes (talk) 12:27, 4 December 2014 (EST)

Roger that, it is still not set in stone, I am trying to find a better place for the Long War Header that Ellatan insisted placing on the right, atop of the Table of Contents. I personally would prefer the box to be to the right since it will be easier to format the text. I will see what the others think on the forums as well, it is relatively easy to change.--8wayz (talk) 13:50, 4 December 2014 (EST)

It is easy to change but if you have to change 100 pages then it becomes a painful chore, that's why I decided to drop you a line before you changed all the facilities pages :). I noticed that header as well. The best places might be for it to be right on the top of the TOC, or even on top of the page. Hobbes (talk) 14:19, 4 December 2014 (EST)

The first variant was with the header at top-center and everything was working. Ellatan prefered the header to be to the right. In end it is just a question of personal preference, I would probably settle with removing the table of contents altogether from articles with Data/Info boxes and put the header on top of the box.

Well, everyone may have personal preferences but there are solutions that visually work better than others and wiki decisions should be taken by discussion and consent. What are the reasons why he thinks that header solution is a good idea? To me the main propose of having such a header is to help people identify the content of the page, which can be debatable if it is really required, since the page name already states Long War in large letters, but let's stay out of that discussion. The issue here is that, as it is, both the TOC and the header are two graphic elements in the same area of the page and they should be combined together to appear as a single element, since they both have are in the same visual area and have both a functional propose. Having both standing out merely increases the visual clutter, and the most important items in the page shouldn't be the TOC or the header but the actual content. Another question meanwhile: are all Long War pages going to have that header? Hobbes (talk) 16:39, 4 December 2014 (EST)