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== Manufacturable Prices ==
 
== Manufacturable Prices ==
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=== Table ===
 
                                                       '''Tech.'''
 
                                                       '''Tech.'''
  '''ITEM'''                        '''Build Price'''  '''Sell Price'''  '''Hours'''  '''Profit'''
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  '''ITEM'''                        '''Start Price'''  '''Sell Price'''  '''Hours'''  '''Profit ''' '''Payback'''
  '''----'''                        '''-----------'''  '''----------'''  '''-----'''  '''------'''
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  '''----'''                        '''-----------'''  '''----------'''  '''-----'''  '''------ ''' '''-------'''
  HAMMERHEAD                  $  400,000  $        0   
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  HAMMERHEAD                  $  400,000  $        0  14000  $- 82
  MANTA                      $  600,000  $        0   
+
  MANTA                      $  600,000  $        0  18000  $- 82
  LEVIATHAN                  $  900,000  $        0   
+
  LEVIATHAN                  $  900,000  $        0  34000 $- 66
  P.W.T. Cannon              $   242,000  $  281,100 
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  Gauss Pistol               $     8,000  $  20,000    300  $  40   15 mon
  Gauss Cannon               $   182,000  $  211,000   300  $ 97
+
  Gauss Pistol Clip          $    1,000  $    1,050     20 $  2.5 (never)
  Sonic Oscillator            226,000 $  267,300 
+
  Gauss Rifle                $    20,000  $  36,900    400  $ 42   10 mon
P.W.T Ammo                  $   28,000  $  53,300   
+
  Gauss Rifle Clip            $    2,000  $    1,950     45  $- 1
Coelacanth/Gauss            $   500,000 $  594,000 
+
  Heavy Gauss                $    32,000  $  61,000    700  $ 41   11 mon
Gauss Cannon Ammo          $      200  $      200 
+
  Heavy Gauss Clip            $    4,000  $    3,220    70  $- 11
Displacer /Sonic            $  850,000  $  980,000 
+
  Sonic Pistol                $    56,000  $  84,000    600  $  36   16 yrs
Displacer /P. W. T.        $  900,000  $1,043,000 
+
  Pistol Power Clip          $    2,000  $    4,440     60 $- 43
P.W. Torpedo                $   15,000  $  31,500 
+
  Sonic-Blasta Rifle          $    88,000  $  126,500    820  $ 39    19 mon
Gauss Pistol                $    8,000  $  20,000 
+
  Blasta Power Clip          $    3,000  $    6,290    80  $- 84
  Gauss Pistol Clip          $    1,000  $    1,050   
+
  Sonic Cannon               $   122,000  $ 171,600  1,000  $  43    9 mon
  Gauss Rifle                $    20,000  $  36,900    400  $ 42
+
  Cannon Power Clip          $    6,000  $    9,590    80  $-143
  Gauss Rifle Clip            $    2,000  $    1,950   
+
Sonic Pulser                $    6,700  $  14,850    200  $- 9
  Heavy Gauss                $    32,000  $  61,000    700  $ 41
+
  Disruptor Pulse Launcher    $    90,000  $  144,000   1200  $ 40    16 mon
  Heavy Gauss Clip            $    4,000  $    3,220    70  $-11
+
  Disruptor Ammo              $    8,000  $  17,028   220 $- 27
  Particle Disturbance Sensor $    34,000  $  45,600   220 $ 53
+
  Thermal Shok Launcher      $    78,000  $  120,000    900  $ 39    17 mon
  Medi-Kit                    $   28,000  $  46,500 
+
  Thermal Shok Bomb          $    7,000  $  15,200    200  $ 16  (never)
  M.C. Disruptor              $  160,000  $  194,700 
+
Vibro Blade                $    7,000  $    1,500    150  $- 70
Sonic Cannon                $  122,000  $  171,600  1,000  $ 50
+
Thermic Lance              $    12,000  $    1,800    220  $- 92
Cannon Power Clip          $    6,000  $    9,590     80 $ 45
+
Heavy Thermic Lance        $    20,000  $    2,000    300  $- 93
  Sonic-Blasta Rifle          $    88,000  $  126,500    820  $ 47
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  Particle Disturbance Sensor $    34,000  $  45,600    220  $ 53     4 mon
  Blasta Power Clip          $    3,000  $    6,290    80  $ 41
+
Medi-Kit                    $    28,000 46,500   420 $ 44    8 mon
  Sonic Pistol               $   56,000  $   84,000   
+
  M.C. Reader                $  262,000  $  304,000   1200 $  25  (never)
  Pistol Power Clip          $    2,000  $    4,440  
+
  M.C. Disruptor              $  160,000  $  194,700    500  $ 36     6 yrs
  Disruptor Pulse Launcher    $    90,000  $  144,000   
+
Gauss Cannon                $  182,000  $  211,000   300 $ 97   33 days
  Disruptor Ammo              $    8,000  $  17,028   
+
Gauss Cannon Ammo          $      200  $      200      5  $  0
  Thermal Shok Launcher      $    78,000  $  120,000    900  $ 47
+
Sonic Oscillator            $  226,000  $  267,300    500  $- 67
  Thermal Shok Bomb          $    7,000  $  15,200    200  $ 41
+
  P.W.T. Cannon               $   242,000  $  281,100   400  $  81.5  44 days
  Sonic Pulser                $    6,700 14,850   200 $ 41
+
P.W.T Ammo (craft)          $    28,000  $  53,300    600  $  9  (never)
  M.C. Reader                $  262,000  $  304,000   
+
Coelacanth/Gauss            $  500,000  $  594,000   1200 $ 78   48 days
  Vibro Blade                $    7,000  $    1,500   
+
Displacer /Sonic            $  850,000  $  980,000  1200 $- 44
  Thermic Lance               $    12,000  $    1,800  
+
  Displacer /P. W. T.         $   900,000  $1,043,000   1400 $- 24
  Heavy Thermic Lance         $   20,000  $    2,000   
+
P.W. Torpedo (SWS)          $    15,000  $  31,500    400  $-151
  Ion-Beam Accelerators      $  130,000  $  250,000   
+
  Ion-Beam Accelerators      $  130,000  $  250,000   1400 $  5  (never)
  Magnetic Navigation        $  150,000  $  80,000 1,600 $-44
+
  Magnetic Navigation        $  150,000  $  80,000   1600 $- 56
  Aqua Plastics              $    3,000  $    6,500    100  $ 35
+
  Aqua Plastics              $    3,000  $    6,500    100  $ 35   (never)
  Plastic Aqua Armor          $    22,000  $  54,000    800  $ 40
+
  Plastic Aqua Armor          $    22,000  $  54,000    800  $   7.5 (never)
  Ion Armor                  $    42,000  $  85,000 1,000 $ 43
+
  Ion Armor                  $    42,000  $  85,000   1000 $- 15
  Mag. Ion Armor              $    58,000  $  115,000 1,400 $ 41
+
  Mag. Ion Armor              $    58,000  $  115,000   1400 $- 40
  
  NOTE: Profit is measured in $ per technician hours. It is calculated
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=== Notes to Table ===
 +
 
 +
  NOTE: '''Profit''' is measured in $ per technician hours. It is calculated
 
  by taking the difference between an item's selling price and its  
 
  by taking the difference between an item's selling price and its  
  build price and dividing that by the technician hours required to  
+
  total build costs (including manufacturing start costs, and any
build it. The profit is simply how much money you make in one hour  
+
exotic component costs) and dividing that by the technician hours  
with one technician building a particular item just to sell it.
+
required to build it. The profit is simply how much money you make  
 +
in one hour with one technician building a particular item just to  
 +
sell it. '''Payback''' is the time required for profits to repay all
 +
initial costs.
 +
 
 +
=== Further Notes ===
 +
 
 +
*The profit levels calculated above include the lost resale value of all manufactured/recovered components (Zrbite, Aqua Plastics, on-Beam Accelerators, Magnetic Navigation) used in their manufacture. In many cases this reduces the profit considerably.
 +
*Also, keep in mind that that each technician costs $36/hr in salary,  Living Quarters maintenance, and Workshop space maintenance. Any "profit" less than $36/hr is not really a true profit, it's just a subsidy to reduce your outgoings on Technician costs and overheads.
 +
*In addition, before a true profit is made, you must recover the initial costs of hiring the Technicians, building their Living Quarters and their Workshop. Recovering these initial outlays will cost the equivalent of $67/hr per Technician for one month (or just over $11/hr for six months, etc). The '''Payback''' period shown above is the time taken to repay these costs (assuming multiples of 50 Technicians).
 +
*As in the real world, fixed assets (such as workshops and living quarters) need to be fully utilised in order to be the most profitable. Whenever you use and hire Technicians in less than multiples of 50, the overhead costs are proportionally even higher, and the payback period on initial costs is longer.
 +
 
 +
=== Analysis ===
  
FURTHER NOTE: The profit levels stated above are wrong, for all items
+
*The most profitable item to produce is the Gauss Cannon. The PWT Launcher and Coelecanth/Gauss are similar, but the Gauss Cannon is likely to be researched first. The next most profitable item is the Particle Dispersion Sensor, which has the advantage that that can be successfully researched very early in the game.
that include other manufactured/recovered components (Zrbite, Aqua
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*Most of the profitable manufacturing activities would be considered very good commercial investments. A Gauss Cannon factory, with an annual Return on Investment of nearly 1100%, would be considered an economic miracle. Even the Particle Disturbance Sensor (RoI just over 300%) would have investors beating down the doors. The only tricky part would be insuring the factory site against Alien attack...
Plastics, Ion-Beam Accelerators, Magnetic Navigation). The lost sale
 
value of the components is not included, and this is very significant.
 
Also, keep in mind that that each technician costs $36/hr in salary,
 
Living Quarters, and Workshop space. Plus, recouping the "fixed costs"
 
of hiring 50 Technicians, building their Living Quarters, and building
 
their Workshop will take the equivalent of $67/hr x 50 Technicians x
 
one month. If you use and hire Technicians in less than multiples of
 
50, these fixed and variable costs are proportionally even higher.
 
  
 
== USO Recoverable Prices ==
 
== USO Recoverable Prices ==

Revision as of 16:57, 4 October 2008

Purchase Times

ITEM                          TIME (Hours)      TIME (Days)
----                          ------------      -----------
All Personnel                     72                3        
TRITON                            72                3
BARRACUDA                         96                4
Craft Weapons                     48                2
Craft Missiles                    48                2
Gas Rounds(×50)                   96                4
SWS                               96                4
SWS Ammo                          48                2
All Weapons                       24                1
All Ammunition                    24                1
All Equipment                     24                1

Non-Manufacturable Prices

ITEM                           Buy Price      Sell Price
----                           ---------      ----------
Aquanaut                       $  40,000      $        0
Scientist                      $  60,000      $        0
Technician                     $  50,000      $        0
TRITON                         $ 500,000      $        0
BARRACUDA                      $ 600,000      $        0
Ajax Launcher                  $  16,000      $   12,000
D.U.P. Head Launcher           $  17,000      $   12,750
Craft Gas Cannon               $  30,000      $   22,500
Ajax Torpedoes                 $   3,000      $    2,400
D.U.P. Head Torpedoes          $   9,000      $    7,200
Gas Rounds(×50)                $   1,240      $    1,012
Coelacanth/G. Cannon           $ 420,000      $  340,000
Solid Harpoon Bolts            $     200      $      100
Coelacanth/Aqua Jet            $ 480,000      $  360,000
Aqua Jet Missiles              $   3,000      $    2,250
Dart Gun                       $     800      $      600
Dart Clip                      $      70      $       52
Jet Harpoon                    $   3,000      $    2,250
Harpoon Clip                   $     200      $      150
Gas Cannon                     $   6,400      $    4,800
GC-AP Bolts                    $     300      $      225
GC-HE Bolts                    $     500      $      275
GC-Phosphorous Bolts           $     400      $      300
Hydro-Jet Cannon               $  13,500      $   10,125
HJ-AP Ammo                     $     500      $      400
HJ-HE Ammo                     $     700      $      560
HJ-P Ammo                      $     650      $      520
Torpedo Launcher               $   4,000      $    3,000
Small Torpedo                  $     600      $      480
Large Torpedo                  $     900      $      720
Phosphor Torpedo               $   1,200      $      960
Magna-Blast Grenade            $     300      $      240
Dye Grenade                    $     150      $      120
Particle Disturbance Grenade   $     500      $      400
Magna-Pack Explosive           $   1,500      $    1,200
Thermal Tazer                  $   1,260      $      945
Chemical-flare                 $      60      $       40

Manufacturable Prices

Table

                                                     Tech.
ITEM                        Start Price  Sell Price  Hours  Profit  Payback
----                        -----------  ----------  -----  ------  -------
HAMMERHEAD                  $   400,000  $        0  14000  $- 82
MANTA                       $   600,000  $        0  18000  $- 82
LEVIATHAN                   $   900,000  $        0  34000  $- 66
Gauss Pistol                $     8,000  $   20,000    300  $  40    15 mon
Gauss Pistol Clip           $     1,000  $    1,050     20  $   2.5 (never)
Gauss Rifle                 $    20,000  $   36,900    400  $  42    10 mon
Gauss Rifle Clip            $     2,000  $    1,950     45  $-  1
Heavy Gauss                 $    32,000  $   61,000    700  $  41    11 mon
Heavy Gauss Clip            $     4,000  $    3,220     70  $- 11
Sonic Pistol                $    56,000  $   84,000    600  $  36    16 yrs
Pistol Power Clip           $     2,000  $    4,440     60  $- 43
Sonic-Blasta Rifle          $    88,000  $  126,500    820  $  39    19 mon
Blasta Power Clip           $     3,000  $    6,290     80  $- 84
Sonic Cannon                $   122,000  $  171,600  1,000  $  43     9 mon
Cannon Power Clip           $     6,000  $    9,590     80  $-143
Sonic Pulser                $     6,700  $   14,850    200  $-  9
Disruptor Pulse Launcher    $    90,000  $  144,000   1200  $  40    16 mon
Disruptor Ammo              $     8,000  $   17,028    220  $- 27
Thermal Shok Launcher       $    78,000  $  120,000    900  $  39    17 mon
Thermal Shok Bomb           $     7,000  $   15,200    200  $  16   (never)
Vibro Blade                 $     7,000  $    1,500    150  $- 70
Thermic Lance               $    12,000  $    1,800    220  $- 92
Heavy Thermic Lance         $    20,000  $    2,000    300  $- 93
Particle Disturbance Sensor $    34,000  $   45,600    220  $  53     4 mon
Medi-Kit                    $    28,000  $   46,500    420  $  44     8 mon
M.C. Reader                 $   262,000  $  304,000   1200  $  25   (never)
M.C. Disruptor              $   160,000  $  194,700    500  $  36     6 yrs
Gauss Cannon                $   182,000  $  211,000    300  $  97    33 days
Gauss Cannon Ammo           $       200  $      200      5  $   0
Sonic Oscillator            $   226,000  $  267,300    500  $- 67
P.W.T. Cannon               $   242,000  $  281,100    400  $  81.5  44 days
P.W.T Ammo (craft)          $    28,000  $   53,300    600  $   9   (never)
Coelacanth/Gauss            $   500,000  $  594,000   1200  $  78    48 days
Displacer /Sonic            $   850,000  $  980,000   1200  $- 44
Displacer /P. W. T.         $   900,000  $1,043,000   1400  $- 24
P.W. Torpedo (SWS)          $    15,000  $   31,500    400  $-151
Ion-Beam Accelerators       $   130,000  $  250,000   1400  $   5   (never)
Magnetic Navigation         $   150,000  $   80,000   1600  $- 56
Aqua Plastics               $     3,000  $    6,500    100  $  35   (never)
Plastic Aqua Armor          $    22,000  $   54,000    800  $   7.5 (never)
Ion Armor                   $    42,000  $   85,000   1000  $- 15
Mag. Ion Armor              $    58,000  $  115,000   1400  $- 40

Notes to Table

NOTE: Profit is measured in $ per technician hours. It is calculated
by taking the difference between an item's selling price and its 
total build costs (including manufacturing start costs, and any 
exotic component costs) and dividing that by the technician hours 
required to build it. The profit is simply how much money you make 
in one hour with one technician building a particular item just to 
sell it. Payback is the time required for profits to repay all 
initial costs.

Further Notes

  • The profit levels calculated above include the lost resale value of all manufactured/recovered components (Zrbite, Aqua Plastics, on-Beam Accelerators, Magnetic Navigation) used in their manufacture. In many cases this reduces the profit considerably.
  • Also, keep in mind that that each technician costs $36/hr in salary, Living Quarters maintenance, and Workshop space maintenance. Any "profit" less than $36/hr is not really a true profit, it's just a subsidy to reduce your outgoings on Technician costs and overheads.
  • In addition, before a true profit is made, you must recover the initial costs of hiring the Technicians, building their Living Quarters and their Workshop. Recovering these initial outlays will cost the equivalent of $67/hr per Technician for one month (or just over $11/hr for six months, etc). The Payback period shown above is the time taken to repay these costs (assuming multiples of 50 Technicians).
  • As in the real world, fixed assets (such as workshops and living quarters) need to be fully utilised in order to be the most profitable. Whenever you use and hire Technicians in less than multiples of 50, the overhead costs are proportionally even higher, and the payback period on initial costs is longer.

Analysis

  • The most profitable item to produce is the Gauss Cannon. The PWT Launcher and Coelecanth/Gauss are similar, but the Gauss Cannon is likely to be researched first. The next most profitable item is the Particle Dispersion Sensor, which has the advantage that that can be successfully researched very early in the game.
  • Most of the profitable manufacturing activities would be considered very good commercial investments. A Gauss Cannon factory, with an annual Return on Investment of nearly 1100%, would be considered an economic miracle. Even the Particle Disturbance Sensor (RoI just over 300%) would have investors beating down the doors. The only tricky part would be insuring the factory site against Alien attack...

USO Recoverable Prices

ITEM                           Sell Price
----                           ----------
Zrbite                         $    5,000        
Alien Corpses                  $   20,000
Alien Sub Construction         $   20,000
Alien Cryogenics               $    5,000
Alien Cloning                  $   40,000
Alien Learning Arrays          $   20,000
Alien Implanter                $   38,000
Examination Room               $    9,000
Alien Re-animation Zone        $      100