Talk:Heavy Thermic Lance

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NKF, you win. Your description made me laugh twice. Arrow Quivershaft 11:38, 13 September 2007 (PDT)

Technically I'm borrowing ideas I've read elsewhere - or think I've read. Still, I almost couldn't complete it. I was laughing my own head off while writing it... -NKF

Hey Spike, you might want to place a warning about weight on the drill articles. It got me screwed more times than I can remember. Muton commander 22:08, 2 October 2008 (CDT)

Initial research on the operational use of the Heavy Thermic Lance hit a standstill. It was a problem that baffled even the boffins. No one could get it to operate. Of course, with some excruciatingly painful torture procedures helpful guidance from a representative of the Gillman race (that shall remain anonymous), this stumbling block with the triggering mechanism was removed. Who was to know they mis-assembled the trigger so that you had to push it the other way?

On a lesser note, funding for an under-slung butter and salt dispenser and utensil storage was declined. The loss in profit from not being able to sell prime lobster meat to the highest bidders was just too high to justify a free gourmet after-battle meal for the ground troops.

Guys, you sure about this? All the guides say you can just research Heavy Thermic Lance right after you research thermic lance, you sure you need to interrogate a Live Gillman to get this? Jasonred 08:00, 12 March 2009 (CDT)

This could have been confusion with the Thermic Lance. You need a Calcinite corpse for the Vibro Blade, then a Gillman corpse for the Thermic Lance. After this I never needed anything else to get the HTL. --Zombie 08:35, 12 March 2009 (CDT)

I'll edit the main article to reflect this then... Jasonred 11:12, 12 March 2009 (CDT)
What's wrong with a bit of flavor text? I always liked that line, and what's to say they didn't get the info from the same Gillman? :) Arrow Quivershaft 17:41, 12 March 2009 (CDT)
I dunno, I like flavour text but people keep editting it out telling me the UFOpedia should be serious. In any case, that line is misleading. It implies that you must research a live gillmen before you can research Heavy Thermic Lance. TFTD already has a very messed up research tree, with more than 1 version of it IIRC, so that line confused even me... I thought my memory was playing tricks on me or something. Jasonred 03:47, 13 March 2009 (CDT)
Funny's funny, but we do have to maintain accuracy too - which we've been trying to do lately. Adding to the canon on the other hand is Field Manual territory.
My recollection on how the drills became available beyond the Vibroblade is a little different, so I'll need to run a few different test scenarios to be sure. Such as having a gill-man or gill-man corpse researched before the drills. Gill man/gill man corpse after the Vibroblade when there aren't any Thermic lances in storage, then getting some in. Thermic lance when there aren't any Heavy Thermic lances in storage. Etc. -NKF 04:43, 13 March 2009 (CDT)


Usage notes a bit misleading

Using the Least Common Multiple (or LCM) is indeed a way to compare the three drills as the 60% TU cost of each are divisible, but it's also a little bit misleading. When I think of how much damage each drill can muster, I think of it in terms of a full round, not 60% of it. True, the Thermic Lance's 15% TU cost isn't a multiple of 100 (a full turn), but that extra 2/3 of a use is a realistic thing to drop. What does everyone think? --Zombie (talk) 03:47, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps a much more useful comparison tool would be to simply dump stats into a table. Say the total of potential damage that each drill can put out based on the portion of TUs spent? As a rough example:
Drill/Cost 10% 15% 20% 30% 40% 45% 50% 60% 70% 75% 80% 90% 100%
Vibroblade 80 160 240 320 400 480 560 640 720 800
Thermic Lance 110 220 330 440 550 660
Heavy Thermic Lance 150 300 450 600 750
Something like that in any case. With better formatting. Maybe even a fancy Excel line chart on the side. NKF (talk) 07:20, 13 April 2017 (UTC)