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| − | <tr><td>[[Image: | + | <tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_xcom_icon.gif]] [[X-COM (Apocalypse)|X-COM]] [[Image:Apoc_govt_icon.gif]] [[Government]] [[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.gif]] [[Megapol]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_aliens_icon.gif]] [[Aliens (Apocalypse)|Alien]] [[Image:Apoc_sirius_icon.gif]] [[Cult of Sirius]] [[Image:Apoc_ts_icon.gif]] ([[Transtellar]])</td></tr> |
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| − | <tr><td>[[Image: | + | <tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.gif]] [[Megapol]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_marsec_icon.gif]] [[Marsec]]</td></tr> |
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The rivals of Mega-Primus's military-industrial complex. | The rivals of Mega-Primus's military-industrial complex. | ||
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| − | <table {{StdDescTable}}><tr><td>[[Image: | + | <table {{StdDescTable}}><tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_sd_icon.gif]] [[Superdynamics]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_gm_icon.gif]] [[General Metro]]</td></tr> |
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| − | <tr><td>[[Image: | + | <tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_cyberweb_icon.gif]] [[Cyberweb]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_nanotech_icon.gif]] [[Nanotech]]</td></tr> |
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| − | <tr><td>[[Image: | + | <tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_solmine_icon.gif]] [[Solmine]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_energen_icon.gif]] [[Energen]]</td></tr> |
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| − | <tr><td>[[Image: | + | <tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_sensovision_icon.gif]] [[Sensovision]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_lifetree_icon.gif]] [[Lifetree]]</td></tr> |
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| − | <tr><td>[[Image: | + | <tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_nutrivend_icon.gif]] [[Nutrivend]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_evonet_icon.gif]] [[Evonet]]</td></tr></table> |
"Soylent Green is people! We've got to stop them somehow!" | "Soylent Green is people! We've got to stop them somehow!" | ||
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| − | <tr><td>[[Image: | + | <tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_technocr_icon.gif]] [[Technocrats]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_extropians_icon.gif]] [[Extropians]]</td></tr> |
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| − | <tr><td>[[Image: | + | <tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_govt_icon.gif]] [[Government]] [[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.gif]] [[Megapol]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_psyke_icon.gif]] [[Psyke]] [[Image:Apoc_diablo_icon.gif]] [[Diablo]] [[Image:Apoc_osiron_icon.gif]] [[Osiron]]</td></tr> |
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| − | <tr><td>[[Image: | + | <tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_psyke_icon.gif]] [[Psyke]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_diablo_icon.gif]] [[Diablo]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_osiron_icon.gif]] [[Osiron]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_sensovision_icon.gif]] [[Sensovision]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_gravball_icon.gif]] [[Grav Ball League]]</td> |
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| − | <tr><td>[[Image: | + | <tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_marsec_icon.gif]] [[Marsec]] [[Image:Apoc_solmine_icon.gif]] [[Solmine]] [[Image:Apoc_extropians_icon.gif]] [[Extropians]]</td> |
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| − | <tr><td>[[Image: | + | <tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_sanctuary_icon.gif]] [[Sanctuary Clinic]] [[Image:Apoc_nanotech_icon.gif]] [[Nanotech]]</td></tr> |
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| − | <tr><td>[[Image: | + | <tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_self_icon.gif]] [[S.E.L.F.]] [[Image:Apoc_cyberweb_icon.gif]] [[Cyberweb]]</td></tr> |
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| − | <tr><td>[[Image: | + | <tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_self_icon.gif]] [[S.E.L.F.]] [[Image:Apoc_mutant_icon.gif]] [[Mutant Alliance]]</td><td> VS. </td><td>[[Image:Apoc_govt_icon.gif]] [[Government]] [[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.gif]] [[Megapol]]</td></tr> |
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Revision as of 16:30, 1 November 2009
Basic Concepts
Relationships in Mega-Primus generally follow these principles:
The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend
This means that if you attack Organisation A, which is disliked by Organisation B, Organisation B will be much friendlier towards you, and vice versa.
Trying to understand these relationships can be quite difficult at first (except for the pretty obvious ones like Megapol and the Aliens), but there are ways to gauge how companies are relating to each other.
Reading the informational headlines that pop up on your information bar from time to time is a great way to see how certain companies relate to each other. Gangs in particular also employ direct air assaults on their enemies. Unfortunately, they tend to be overwhelmed by the defenders.
Love Can be Unrequited
A lot of these relationships are however one-way only. That is to say, if company A likes company B, this relationship is not mutually exclusive. Company B may feel indifferent or have a slight dislike for company A.
Case in point, every time an organisation gets fed up with X-COM and refuses to accept cash settlments because you're attacking their 'alien friends', the aliens will not necessarily feel the same way about the rebelling company. The company may continue to get upset whenever you take action against the aliens, but they will quickly change their tune if the aliens turn on them and start destroying their facilities.
The Organizations tab on Cityscape shows their opinion towards X-COM. You won't be able to see X-COM's opinion towards them though.
Some Friends Are Better Than Others
Certain organisations are more important to stay friendly with or protect from alien infiltration than others. I'm sure it needn't be said, but do not bother paying out insane sums to keep the Cult of Sirius happy. It won't work. You obviously want to stay friendly with groups such as Megapol (otherwise expect random shootings in the cityscape) and Marsec if you intend on doing any business with them. The government is where you get that insulting amount of funding from, and despite it not covering your troops wages, any amount of funds are very much needed. Other factions to make sure you stay in their good books include anyone else you want to trade with. Transtellar are very important to keep away from the aliens, since if you lose their support you have no good means to transfer equipment between bases (and you will have to use your craft and agents to move things betwen bases).
For more information about the starting relationships check down below and the pages of the individual organizations.
Donations/Reparations/Bribes/etc
In Mega-Primus, money is the medium that makes the cogs move. A generous helping here or there will allow X-COM free to free themselves of the uncooperative companies that are obstructing X-COM from saving the city by withdrawing their services.
There are two occasions where you can offer money to a company to improve their standings with you. You can voluntarily offer the money to a company, or the company will demand that you pay them a tribute of cash. The second option only happens if the company is decidedly hostile towards you. The Cult of Sirius for example always do this in every new game.
Both of these methods differ in their purpose.
Offering Money
When you offer cash to a company, their standings with you will improve a level. Neutral companies can go to friendly, or hostile companies will continue to dislike but will resume their services (where applicable). They will specify the amount that they will accept for this to happen, and if you pay it they will respond in a positive manner.
Companies Demanding Money
If cash is demanded of you, this means that you have insulted the company in some way that they want you to make reparation for it. When paid, the company's general disposition will automatically be set to neutral, with perhaps some lingering hostility.
Note that if you knowingly cause a lot of damage to a building owned by a certain company and you anticipate that they'll be asking for a settlement (such as dropping them from neutral to hostile after a UFO skirmish), do not in any way offer them the money until they come asking for it. If you pre-empt it and bribe them until they are allied, the request for money will still be issued. Once paid, their standing will return to neutral. Paying them again and then buying them back until they are allied means they'll be double dipping into your funds. If you choose to not pay them, this will add further insult and make matters worse.
Companies Refusing X-COM Payments
There comes a time where a company will refuse these Public Relations Improvement Fund packages from X-COM. This can happen in two ways.
The first is through 100% alien infiltration. They become an alien controlled organization, so will not cooperate with X-COM.
The second is when a company loses faith in X-COM and starts to think that the aliens would be a better alternative. This generally happens if X-COM does a lot of property damage in both the cityscape and especially the battlescape. The Cult of Sirius is already at this stage when you start a new game. Do note that while the company thinks this way, the aliens don't necessarily have to agree with it unless they are already friendly with the company involved.
When this happens, the only way you will be able to bribe companies in this state is when they ask for it. Beyond that, the only way to get them to like you again is to do something that'll make them happy. Such as outright attacking their enemies, or tricking the aliens to do some serious damage towards their property (in the Cityscape) that they re-think their positions.
Note that once the companies start behaving like this, they'll continue to behave like this even if you are the best of chums with them again. Also that due to an unfortunate selection of words, these companies will always refer to the aliens as their "friends" in the bribe screen. This is not necessarily the case.
Relationships At Game Start
As mentioned before, the initial relationships between organizations on Mega-Primus develop into dynatic and chaotic affairs as damage is inflicted to buildings and raids are conducted. Moreover, there's a random element when the ratings are generated which makes each start different.
But it might be helpful to have a look at the initial alliances and feuds at the start of the game to have an idea how things can evolve. Keep in mind that there can be slight changes on the starting views of every organization towards others that can result in additional starting relationships in addition to those shown below.
A detailed list of the organizations' starting attitudes can be consulted at Organizations.
"You Will Be Brainsucked. Resistence is Futile."
The main story, everything else is sideshow. Aliens will try to infiltrate the police and the Senate and if that happens either your money will run out or the police cars will shoot at you (or worse). Or both will happen.
Transtellar turns usually hostile to X-COM because infiltration or simply being mad for property damage but it is possible to prevent that from happening through large denomination bills and a close watch on their buildings.
Mine Is Bigger Than Yours
| File:Apoc megapol icon.gif Megapol | VS. | File:Apoc marsec icon.gif Marsec |
The rivals of Mega-Primus's military-industrial complex.
| File:Apoc sd icon.gif Superdynamics | VS. | File:Apoc gm icon.gif General Metro |
The fight for dominance in the transportation sector.
| File:Apoc cyberweb icon.gif Cyberweb | VS. | File:Apoc nanotech icon.gif Nanotech |
The battle of the robots against the nanobots.
| File:Apoc solmine icon.gif Solmine | VS. | File:Apoc energen icon.gif Energen |
Energy short fuses.
| File:Apoc sensovision icon.gif Sensovision | VS. | File:Apoc lifetree icon.gif Lifetree |
Brainwashing education and entertainment industry.
| File:Apoc nutrivend icon.gif Nutrivend | VS. | File:Apoc evonet icon.gif Evonet |
"Soylent Green is people! We've got to stop them somehow!"
| File:Apoc technocr icon.gif Technocrats | VS. | File:Apoc extropians icon.gif Extropians |
Different political views.
And remember: the enemy of my enemy is my friend or the friend of my enemy is my enemy or whatever.
Crime And Fun
| File:Apoc govt icon.gif Government File:Apoc megapol icon.gif Megapol | VS. | File:Apoc psyke icon.gif Psyke File:Apoc diablo icon.gif Diablo File:Apoc osiron icon.gif Osiron |
Right from the beginning of the game the police cars will shoot down gang vehicles that get into range of their guns. And the gangs will retaliate back against the police and the government, who happen to be your allies.
And there's always the free for all between the gangs, Sensovision and Grav Ball League. Of course, being friends with the League usually brings more soldiers available for recruitment but might piss off the others.
Scratch My Back And I'll Scratch Yours
| File:Apoc marsec icon.gif Marsec File:Apoc solmine icon.gif Solmine File:Apoc extropians icon.gif Extropians |
Offworld interests (Colonies' slave mining operations)
| File:Apoc sanctuary icon.gif Sanctuary Clinic File:Apoc nanotech icon.gif Nanotech |
The doctors' cabal.
| File:Apoc self icon.gif S.E.L.F. File:Apoc cyberweb icon.gif Cyberweb |
Pinocchio and Geppetto.
And remember: piss-off anyone of these organizations and their buddies will not be happy.
Power To The People
| File:Apoc self icon.gif S.E.L.F. File:Apoc mutant icon.gif Mutant Alliance | VS. | File:Apoc govt icon.gif Government File:Apoc megapol icon.gif Megapol |
The hybrids and the androids are usually friendly to one another and both will look down upon the police and the Senate (and their allies), which might make recruiting difficult.
EDITING YOUR SAVEGAME
If you want to setup your game to have the HATE relationships as listed above, you could use the Midnight Editor for Xcom Apocalypse to edit your savegame. You don't need to start a new game if you don't want to. If you do edit a new savegame, then you'll see the lovely relationships between hostile corporations and the back stabbing, and the destruction.... Lovely!
Midnight Editor
Available here:
http://devisraad.com/xcom/apoc.htm
- OPTIONAL. just a little bit of help with the editor: Select the first corp, then put sliders at neutral, then click "copy to all corporations" button. Go thru and do this for each corp in the list (except the last one. "Civilians"). Placing everyone neutral to everyone else gives you a good basis to work out who you each corp want to hate or love other. Once you do this, use the list above to tune corp relationships. (CAREFUL! NO = Transtellar vs Megapol = many destroyed transtellar road taxi).
- you MUST make X-COM hostile 100% to Aliens, and Aliens hostile 100% to Xcom or the game WILL start being stupid.
- if you make Civilians hostile to everyone else (besides Xcom), aliens and security forces will hunt down and kill the mindless civilians running around the tactical map - CAN HELP IMMENSELY when aliens have run out of Boomeroids by the time they are engaged by Xcom agents.
What do the sliders within the editor mean?
There are two sliders for each corp regarding relations (four sliders in total). The top slider of the each pair is dynamic. It moves when a positive or negative aspect impacts the two corps in question.
- eg: if Megapol accidently flattens a Superdynamics large flyer factory, then the top slider of the pair will move left (closer to 100% hostile) to denote Superdynamic's anger towards Megapol. Megapol might remain indifferent if it were accidently destroyed.
The bottom slider of the pair denotes predisposed attitude between two corps. This does not change as it is a bench mark which each corp will use against the other. eg: (same as above example) Superdynamics' hate towards Megapol has increased. SD might ask Megapol for monetary compensation to bring back relations to their formal state. If Megapol doesn't pay up, then raids and/or illegal flyer activity could be an outcome towards Megapol from Superdynamics, or from their allies.