Relations (Apocalypse)

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Relations

Money is the lubrication that makes the cogs move in Mega-Primus. Organisations within the city expect a corporate environment conducive for generating lots of money ...until someone causes an interuption to the flow, which they then become a problem which needs 'fixing'.

Relationships In Mega-Primus

Attitudes between two organisations can be normalised as:

  • Friendly, Neutral or Unfriendly: which means the either company does not concern itself with matters of the other since there are no major problems that need 'fixing'.
  • Allied: where a company will concern itself with matters which have (if any) negatively affected their business partner.
  • Hostile: where two organisations hate each other and will actively try to destroy not only the others wealth but also their very existance in Mega-Primus.

Relations At The Start

Normalised relations, any difficulty:

OrganizationFriendly/Allied toUnfriendly/Hostile to
Apoc xcom icon.png X-COMApoc govt icon.png Government Apoc megapol icon.png MegapolApoc aliens icon.png Alien Apoc sirius icon.png Cult of Sirius
Apoc aliens icon.png AlienApoc sirius icon.png Cult of SiriusApoc xcom icon.png X-COM
Apoc govt icon.png GovernmentApoc xcom icon.png X-COM Apoc megapol icon.png MegapolApoc aliens icon.png Alien Apoc psyke icon.png Psyke Apoc diablo icon.png Diablo
Apoc megapol icon.png MegapolApoc xcom icon.png X-COM Apoc govt icon.png GovernmentApoc aliens icon.png Alien Apoc marsec icon.png Marsec Apoc ts icon.png Transtellar Apoc psyke icon.png Psyke Apoc diablo icon.png Diablo Apoc osiron icon.png Osiron
Apoc sirius icon.png Cult of SiriusApoc aliens icon.png AlienApoc xcom icon.png X-COM
Apoc marsec icon.png MarsecApoc solmine icon.png Solmine Apoc extropians icon.png ExtropiansApoc megapol icon.png Megapol
Apoc sd icon.png SuperdynamicsApoc gm icon.png General Metro
Apoc gm icon.png General MetroApoc sd icon.png Superdynamics
Apoc cyberweb icon.png CyberwebApoc self icon.png S.E.L.F.Apoc nanotech icon.png Nanotech
Apoc ts icon.png TranstellarApoc aliens icon.png Alien Apoc extropians icon.png ExtropiansApoc megapol icon.png Megapol
Apoc solmine icon.png SolmineApoc marsec icon.png MarsecApoc energen icon.png Energen
Apoc sensovision icon.png SensovisionApoc lifetree icon.png Lifetree Apoc gravball icon.png Grav Ball League Apoc psyke icon.png Psyke Apoc diablo icon.png Diablo Apoc osiron icon.png Osiron
Apoc lifetree icon.png LifetreeApoc sensovision icon.png Sensovision
Apoc nutrivend icon.png NutrivendApoc evonet icon.png Evonet
Apoc evonet icon.png EvonetApoc nutrivend icon.png Nutrivend
Apoc sanctuary icon.png Sanctuary ClinicApoc nanotech icon.png Nanotech
Apoc nanotech icon.png NanotechApoc sanctuary icon.png Sanctuary Clinic
Apoc energen icon.png EnergenApoc solmine icon.png Solmine
Apoc synthemesh icon.png Synthemesh
Apoc gravball icon.png Grav Ball LeagueApoc sensovision icon.png Sensovision Apoc psyke icon.png Psyke Apoc diablo icon.png Diablo Apoc osiron icon.png Osiron
Apoc psyke icon.png PsykeApoc megapol icon.png Megapol Apoc sensovision icon.png Sensovision Apoc gravball icon.png Grav Ball League Apoc diablo icon.png Diablo Apoc osiron icon.png Osiron
Apoc diablo icon.png DiabloApoc megapol icon.png Megapol Apoc sensovision icon.png Sensovision Apoc gravball icon.png Grav Ball League Apoc psyke icon.png Psyke Apoc osiron icon.png Osiron
Apoc osiron icon.png OsironApoc megapol icon.png Megapol Apoc sensovision icon.png Sensovision Apoc psyke icon.png Psyke Apoc diablo icon.png Diablo
Apoc self icon.png S.E.L.F.Apoc mutant icon.png Mutant Alliance1Apoc govt icon.png Government Apoc megapol icon.png Megapol
Apoc mutant icon.png Mutant AllianceApoc self icon.png S.E.L.F.1Apoc govt icon.png Government Apoc megapol icon.png Megapol
Apoc extropians icon.png ExtropiansApoc marsec icon.png Marsec Apoc solmine icon.png SolmineApoc technocr icon.png Technocrats
Apoc technocr icon.png TechnocratsApoc extropians icon.png Extropians

1 Both the Mutant Alliance and S.E.L.F. are set to start slightly friendly to X-Com. However, due to the randomization that happens to every organization's value to another at start they might begin the game with a negative value towards X-Com.
Note: An organisation cannot be eliminated from Mega-Primus. They will always exist and will always be a problem if they remain hostile.

Representation Of Attitudes

Category Relation Score
Allied +75 to +100
Friendly +25 to +74
Neutral -24 to +24
Unfriendly -49 to -25
Hostile -100 to -50
  • The entries in this table are read as: organisation at left of row likes/dislikes organisation at top of column by value in box
  • X-COM attitudes are omitted, as X-COM is under player control.
  • All starting attitudes are subject to random variation of -10 to +10, with the exception of those listed in bold.
  • After this, attitudes not toward X-COM (and not in bold) are also subject to random difficulty adjustment:
    • Negative or zero attitudes not toward the Aliens are worsened by a random number from 0 to 5*difficulty (0 on Novice, 20 on Superhuman)
    • Positive attitudes are improved by a random number from 0 to 3*difficulty (0 on Novice, 12 on Superhuman)
  • Starting attitudes toward X-COM are also subject to fixed difficulty adjustment:
Apoc xcom icon.png Apoc aliens icon.png Apoc govt icon.png Apoc megapol icon.png Apoc sirius icon.png Apoc marsec icon.png Apoc sd icon.png Apoc gm icon.png Apoc cyberweb icon.png Apoc ts icon.png Apoc solmine icon.png Apoc sensovision icon.png Apoc lifetree icon.png Apoc nutrivend icon.png Apoc evonet icon.png Apoc sanctuary icon.png Apoc nanotech icon.png Apoc energen icon.png Apoc synthemesh icon.png Apoc gravball icon.png Apoc psyke icon.png Apoc diablo icon.png Apoc osiron icon.png Apoc self icon.png Apoc mutant icon.png Apoc extropians icon.png Apoc technocr icon.png
Alien -100 +100 -20 -30 +75 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Government +75 -50 +100 +75 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 -35 0 0 0 0 0
Megapol +75 -50 +75 +100 0 -25 0 0 0 -15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -50 -50 -35 0 0 0 0
Cult of Sirius -50 +100 0 0 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Marsec 0 0 0 -35 0 +100 0 0 0 0 +25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +25 0
Superdynamics 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
General Metro 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Cyberweb 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 +50 0 0 0
Transtellar 0 +20 0 -20 0 0 0 0 0 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +25 0
Solmine 0 0 0 0 0 +25 0 0 0 0 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sensovision 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 -35 -35 -20 0 0 0 0
Lifetree 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Nutrivend 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Evonet 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sanctuary Clinic 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 +25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Nanotech 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +25 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Energen 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Synthemesh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Gravball League 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 -20 -20 -10 0 0 0 0
Psyke 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -20 +100 -50 -35 0 0 0 0
Diablo 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -20 -50 +100 -35 0 0 0 0
Osiron 0 0 0 -20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -10 -35 -35 +100 0 0 0 0
S.E.L.F. +15 0 -25 -15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 +25 0 0
Mutant Alliance +15 0 -25 -10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +25 +100 0 0
Extropians 0 0 0 0 0 +25 0 0 0 0 +25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 -35
Technocrats 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 +100

Friends And Enemies

  • Any relationship may be one-sided. If one corporation likes/hates another, that same attitude may not be the other corporation's attitude to the former. eg: the Aliens are indifferent (neutral) to Cult Of Sirius but the cultists revere (allied) the aliens.
  • Organisations which have a particular opinion of each other may not have the same attutide towards others. eg: both Psyke and Transtellar are hostile to each other, and both hate Cyberweb. If Cyberweb attacks Psyke, Transtellar will view that attack on their enemy as a positive action by Cyberweb. Transtellar may now have have a slightly less hatred for Cyberweb! ...basically:

the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Keep Your Friends Close

Is it important to remain on good terms certain organisations which provide X-Com with a needed service or who provide needed goods on the market. The most important non-hostile to have is Megapol. If they are hostile they will attack your crafts whenever they approach any police (road) car or will be chased by police hovercars if you have anything airbourne.
If Megapol is hostile to others which provide Goods And Services to X-Com, those transport crafts (Air-Trans and Auto-Taxi) will be targeted by Megapol for destruction! ...no refunds.


Donations/Reparations/Bribes/etc

There are two occasions where you can offer money to a company to improve their standings with you. The first is the Offer Cash Settlement screen, accessed through the Organizations tab, in which X-COM can voluntarily offer money to a company. The second is the Diplomatic Rift screen (which appears on its own), in which an aggrieved party demands compensation from X-COM.

Offer Cash Settlement

When you offer cash to a company, their standings with you will improve by one category. Neutral companies can go to friendly, or hostile companies will continue to dislike but will resume their services (where applicable). They will specify the amount that they will accept for this to happen, and if you pay it they will respond in a positive manner.

Note that an organisation you've paid off will still have the same opinions of everyone else; an organisation that's been hostile toward you for a while is likely to have accumulated a significant positive attitude toward the Aliens, which will result in them going hostile again quickly when X-COM hurts the Aliens.

Organisations cannot be paid off in this fashion if they are allied with the Aliens ("Whilst X-COM continue to oppose our Alien friends we will remain hostile" - though they may not yet actually be hostile) or if they have been infiltrated.

The amount of the cash settlement will depend on 2 factors: (a) how many extra points are needed to upgrade to the next relationship level, and (b) how rich the organization is.

Diplomatic Rift

If cash is demanded of you, this means that you have insulted the company in some way that they want you to make reparation for it. When paid, the company's general disposition will automatically be set to neutral, with perhaps some lingering hostility.

Note that if you knowingly cause a lot of damage to a building owned by a certain company and you anticipate that they'll be asking for a settlement (such as dropping them from neutral to hostile after a UFO skirmish), do not in any way offer them the money until they come asking for it. If you pre-empt it and bribe them until they are allied, the request for money will still be issued. Once paid, their standing will return to neutral. Paying them again and then buying them back until they are allied means they'll be double dipping into your funds. If you choose to not pay them, this will add further insult and make matters worse.

Organisations allied to the Aliens (such as the Cult of Sirius) may issue these demands for compensation (usually in response to X-COM killing aliens). This is the only way, barring special circumstances, to regain access to their services. Unfortunately, even this is temporary; they will rapidly turn hostile again from X-COM's continued anti-Alien activities.


Gunboat Diplomacy

Not really "gunboat diplomacy" as per the definition. This refers to using collateral damage to the city to control diplomacy. This is a LOT cheaper than paying bribes.

Best done by attacking the Cult of Sirius with a lone hoverbike, then parking that hoverbike on an organization building. Or moving it back and forth, dodging incoming shots. There are certain "sweet spots" where, if you park a hoverbike, the enemies will find it almost impossible to hit you, and will hit the building instead.

Apparently, the game is a lot stricter towards X-COM than it is towards other organizations. For X-com, every single shot that hits a building, whether it does damage or not, will make the organization dislike X-com more. Damage to city score is calculated in the same way. For organizations vs organizations, each shot that "damages a tile" will give -5 relationship points. Furthermore, the game only counts tiles that are directly damaged from shots fired. Chain reaction damage from collapsing buildings does NOT count for inter organization relationships.

It seems that the aliens are held to the same rules as X-com and diplomatic penalties are calculated on a "per shot" basis not on the damage done, and ditto for Damage To City score.

Relationships At Game Start

Difficulty Modifier
Novice 0
Easy +5
Medium 0
Hard -5
Superhuman -10