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Money is the lubrication that makes the cogs move in Mega-Primus. Organisations within the city expect a corporate environment conducive for generating lots of money ...until someone causes an interuption to the flow, which they then become a problem which needs 'fixing'.
  
== Basic Concepts ==
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==Relationships In Mega-Primus==
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Attitudes between two organisations can be normalised as:
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* '''Friendly''', '''Neutral''' or '''Unfriendly''': which means the either company does not concern itself with matters of the other.
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* '''Allied''': where a company will concern itself with matters which have (if any) negatively affected their business partner.
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* '''Hostile''': where two organisations hate each other and will actively try to destroy not only the others wealth but also their very existance in Mega-Primus.
  
Relationships in [[Mega-Primus]] generally follow these principles:
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==Relations At The Start==
 
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Normalised relations before any modifiers have been applied:
===The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend===
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<table {{StdDescTable}}>
 
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<th {{StdDescTable_Heading}}>Organization</th><th {{StdDescTable_Heading}}>Friendly/Allied to<th {{StdDescTable_Heading}}>Unfriendly/Hostile to</th>
This means that if you attack Organisation A, which is disliked by Organisation B, Organisation B will be much friendlier towards you, and vice versa - attacking A, which is liked by B, will result in B disliking you. (Organisation A will obviously be unhappy with the situation either way!)  
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_xcom_icon.png]] [[X-COM (Apocalypse)|X-COM]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_govt_icon.png]] [[Government]] [[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.png]] [[Megapol]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_aliens_icon.png]] [[Aliens (Apocalypse)|Alien]] [[Image:Apoc_sirius_icon.png]] [[Cult of Sirius]]</td></tr>
 
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_aliens_icon.png]] [[Aliens (Apocalypse)|Alien]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_sirius_icon.png]] [[Cult of Sirius]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_xcom_icon.png]] [[X-COM (Apocalypse)|X-COM]]</td></tr>
Trying to understand these relationships can be quite difficult at first (except for the pretty obvious ones like [[Megapol]] and the [[Aliens (Apocalypse)|Aliens]]), but there are ways to gauge how companies are relating to each other.  
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_govt_icon.png]] [[Government]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_xcom_icon.png]] [[X-COM (Apocalypse)|X-COM]] [[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.png]] [[Megapol]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_aliens_icon.png]] [[Aliens (Apocalypse)|Alien]] [[Image:Apoc_psyke_icon.png]] [[Psyke]] [[Image:Apoc_diablo_icon.png]] [[Diablo]]</td></tr>
 
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.png]] [[Megapol]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_xcom_icon.png]] [[X-COM (Apocalypse)|X-COM]] [[Image:Apoc_govt_icon.png]] [[Government]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_aliens_icon.png]] [[Aliens (Apocalypse)|Alien]] [[Image:Apoc_marsec_icon.png]] [[Marsec]] [[Image:Apoc_ts_icon.png]] [[Transtellar]] [[Image:Apoc_psyke_icon.png]] [[Psyke]] [[Image:Apoc_diablo_icon.png]] [[Diablo]] [[Image:Apoc_osiron_icon.png]] [[Osiron]]</td></tr>
Reading the informational headlines that pop up on your information bar from time to time is a great way to see how certain companies relate to each other. Gangs in particular also employ direct air assaults on their enemies. Unfortunately, they tend to be overwhelmed by the defenders.  
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_sirius_icon.png]] [[Cult of Sirius]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_aliens_icon.png]] [[Aliens (Apocalypse)|Alien]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_xcom_icon.png]] [[X-COM (Apocalypse)|X-COM]]</td></tr>
 
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_marsec_icon.png]] [[Marsec]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_solmine_icon.png]] [[Solmine]] [[Image:Apoc_extropians_icon.png]] [[Extropians]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.png]] [[Megapol]]</td></tr>
===Love Can be Unrequited===
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_sd_icon.png]] [[Superdynamics]]</td><td></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_gm_icon.png]] [[General Metro]]</td></tr>
 
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_gm_icon.png]] [[General Metro]]</td><td></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_sd_icon.png]] [[Superdynamics]]</td></tr>
A lot of these relationships are however one-way only. That is to say, if company A likes company B, this relationship is not mutually exclusive. Company B may feel indifferent or have a slight dislike for company A.
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_cyberweb_icon.png]] [[Cyberweb]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_self_icon.png]] [[S.E.L.F.]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_nanotech_icon.png]] [[Nanotech]]</td></tr>
 
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_ts_icon.png]] [[Transtellar]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_aliens_icon.png]] [[Aliens (Apocalypse)|Alien]] [[Image:Apoc_extropians_icon.png]] [[Extropians]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.png]] [[Megapol]]</td></tr>
Case in point, every time an organisation gets fed up with [[X-COM (Apocalypse)|X-COM]] and refuses to accept cash settlments because you're attacking their 'alien friends', the aliens will not necessarily feel the same way about the rebelling company. The company may continue to get upset whenever you take action against the aliens, but they will quickly change their tune if the aliens turn on them and start destroying their facilities.  
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_solmine_icon.png]] [[Solmine]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_marsec_icon.png]] [[Marsec]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_energen_icon.png]] [[Energen]]</td></tr>
 
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_sensovision_icon.png]] [[Sensovision]]</td><td></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_lifetree_icon.png]] [[Lifetree]] [[Image:Apoc_gravball_icon.png]] [[Grav Ball League]] [[Image:Apoc_psyke_icon.png]] [[Psyke]] [[Image:Apoc_diablo_icon.png]] [[Diablo]] [[Image:Apoc_osiron_icon.png]] [[Osiron]]</td></tr>
The Organizations tab on Cityscape shows their opinion towards X-COM. You won't be able to see X-COM's opinion towards them though -  for all intents and purposes, that's dependant on your own views.
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_lifetree_icon.png]] [[Lifetree]]</td><td></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_sensovision_icon.png]] [[Sensovision]]</td></tr>
 
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_nutrivend_icon.png]] [[Nutrivend]]</td><td></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_evonet_icon.png]] [[Evonet]]</td></tr>
===Some Friends Are Better Than Others===
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_evonet_icon.png]] [[Evonet]]</td><td></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_nutrivend_icon.png]] [[Nutrivend]]</td></tr>
 
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_sanctuary_icon.png]] [[Sanctuary Clinic]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_nanotech_icon.png]] [[Nanotech]]</td><td></td></tr>
Certain organisations are more important to stay friendly with or protect from alien infiltration than others. I'm sure it needn't be said, but do not bother paying out insane sums to keep the [[Cult of Sirius]] happy. It won't work. You obviously want to stay friendly with groups such as Megapol (otherwise expect random shootings in the cityscape) and [[Marsec]] if you intend on doing any business with them. The government is where you get that insulting amount of funding from, and despite it not covering your troops wages, any amount of funds are very much needed. Other factions to make sure you stay in their good books include anyone else you want to trade with. [[Transtellar]] is very important to keep away from the aliens, since if you lose their support you have no good means to transfer equipment between bases (and you will have to use your craft and agents to move things betwen bases).
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_nanotech_icon.png]] [[Nanotech]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_sanctuary_icon.png]] [[Sanctuary Clinic]]</td><td></td></tr>
 
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_energen_icon.png]] [[Energen]]</td><td></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_solmine_icon.png]] [[Solmine]]</td></tr>
In addition, bear in mind that, if hostile, Megapol and the three gangs are ''much'' more likely to raid you than the other organizations.  
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_synthemesh_icon.png]] [[Synthemesh]]</td><td></td><td></td></tr>
 
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_gravball_icon.png]] [[Grav Ball League]]</td><td></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_sensovision_icon.png]] [[Sensovision]] [[Image:Apoc_psyke_icon.png]] [[Psyke]] [[Image:Apoc_diablo_icon.png]] [[Diablo]] [[Image:Apoc_osiron_icon.png]] [[Osiron]]</td></tr>
For more information about the starting relationships check down below and the pages of the individual organizations.
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_psyke_icon.png]] [[Psyke]]</td><td></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.png]] [[Megapol]] [[Image:Apoc_sensovision_icon.png]] [[Sensovision]] [[Image:Apoc_gravball_icon.png]] [[Grav Ball League]] [[Image:Apoc_diablo_icon.png]] [[Diablo]] [[Image:Apoc_osiron_icon.png]] [[Osiron]]</td></tr>
 
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_diablo_icon.png]] [[Diablo]]</td><td></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.png]] [[Megapol]] [[Image:Apoc_sensovision_icon.png]] [[Sensovision]] [[Image:Apoc_gravball_icon.png]] [[Grav Ball League]] [[Image:Apoc_psyke_icon.png]] [[Psyke]] [[Image:Apoc_osiron_icon.png]] [[Osiron]]</td></tr>
===Relationship Cutoffs===
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_osiron_icon.png]] [[Osiron]]</td><td></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.png]] [[Megapol]] [[Image:Apoc_sensovision_icon.png]] [[Sensovision]] [[Image:Apoc_psyke_icon.png]] [[Psyke]] [[Image:Apoc_diablo_icon.png]] [[Diablo]]</td></tr>
 
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_self_icon.png]] [[S.E.L.F.]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_mutant_icon.png]] [[Mutant Alliance]]<sup>1</sup></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_govt_icon.png]] [[Government]] [[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.png]] [[Megapol]]</td></tr>
Relations are tracked via a sliding scale from -100 (mortal enemies e.g. Alien attitude toward X-COM) to 100 (organisations' attitude toward themselves, and the Cult of Sirius' worship of the Aliens).
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_mutant_icon.png]] [[Mutant Alliance]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_self_icon.png]] [[S.E.L.F.]]<sup>1</sup></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_govt_icon.png]] [[Government]] [[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.png]] [[Megapol]]</td></tr>
 
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_extropians_icon.png]] [[Extropians]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_marsec_icon.png]] [[Marsec]] [[Image:Apoc_solmine_icon.png]] [[Solmine]]</td><td>[[Image:Apoc_technocr_icon.png]] [[Technocrats]]</td></tr>
The relationship between this scale and the five discrete categories the interface presents is as follows:
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<tr><td>[[Image:Apoc_technocr_icon.png]] [[Technocrats]]</td><td></td><td>[[Image:Apoc_extropians_icon.png]] [[Extropians]]</td></tr>
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</table>
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<sup>1</sup> Mutant Alliance and S.E.L.F. are set to start slightly friendly to X-Com. However, due to the [[Agents_(Apocalypse)#Note|randomization]] that happens to every organization's value to another at start they might begin the game with a negative value towards X-Com.<br>
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An organisation cannot be eliminated from Mega-Primus. They will always exist and will always be a problem if they remain hostile.
  
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==Representation Of Attitudes==
 
{| {{StdCenterTable}}
 
{| {{StdCenterTable}}
 
|- {{StdDescTable_Heading}}
 
|- {{StdDescTable_Heading}}
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== Donations/Reparations/Bribes/etc ==
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X-Com's attitude towards others is not shown in the chart below since the player is in control.
  
In Mega-Primus, money is the medium that makes the cogs move. A generous helping here or there will allow X-COM free to free themselves of the uncooperative companies that are obstructing X-COM from saving the city by withdrawing their services.  
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====Modifiers====
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* Numbers listed in '''bold''' do not get modified at game start.
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* Any organisation listed cannot hate itself. They will always be '''+100''' (allied) with themselves.
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* Aliens and X-Com wil always be hostile '''-100'''.
  
There are two occasions where you can offer money to a company to improve their standings with you. You can voluntarily offer the money to a company, or the company will demand that you pay them a tribute of cash.
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The calculation used for modifying the final relationship corresponds to the Difficulty:<br>
 
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* '''0'''=Novice, '''1'''=Easy, '''2'''=Medium, '''3'''=Hard, '''4'''=Superhuman.<br>
===Offer Cash Settlement===
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1. Attitudes are randomised +/- 10 for ''Normalised Relations'' (see chart above).<br>
 
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2. Attitudes (except X-Com) are randomised better or worse, limited by ('''5''' x Difficulty).<br>
When you offer cash to a company, their standings with you will improve by one category. Neutral companies can go to friendly, or hostile companies will continue to dislike but will resume their services (where applicable). They will specify the amount that they will accept for this to happen, and if you pay it they will respond in a positive manner.
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3. Attitudes (except Aliens) are randomly <u>worsened</u>, limited by ('''5''' x Difficulty).<br>
 
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4. Attitudes between Organisations are randomly <u>improved</u>, limited by  ('''3''' x Difficulty).<br>
Note that an organisation you've paid off will still have the same opinions of everyone ''else''; an organisation that's been hostile toward you for a while is likely to have accumulated a significant positive attitude toward the Aliens, which will result in them going hostile again quickly when X-COM hurts the Aliens.
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5. X-Com's attitude to all others is then modified depending on Difficulty:
 
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{| {{StdCenterTable}}
Organisations cannot be paid off in this fashion if they are allied with the Aliens ("Whilst X-COM continue to oppose our Alien friends we will remain hostile") or if they have been infiltrated.
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|- {{StdDescTable_Heading}}
 
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!Difficulty!!Modifier
===Diplomatic Rift===
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|-
 
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|Novice||0
If cash is demanded of you, this means that you have insulted the company in some way that they want you to make reparation for it. When paid, the company's general disposition will automatically be set to neutral, with perhaps some lingering hostility.
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|-
 
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Note that if you knowingly cause a lot of damage to a building owned by a certain company and you anticipate that they'll be asking for a settlement (such as dropping them from neutral to hostile after a UFO skirmish), do not in any way offer them the money until they come asking for it. If you pre-empt it and bribe them until they are allied, the request for money will still be issued. Once paid, their standing will return to neutral. Paying them again and then buying them back until they are allied means they'll be double dipping into your funds. If you choose to not pay them, this will add further insult and make matters worse.
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|Medium||0
Organisations allied to the Aliens (such as the Cult of Sirius) may issue these demands for compensation (usually in response to X-COM killing aliens). This is the only way, barring [[Overspawn (Apocalypse)|special]] [[Food Chamber|circumstances]], to regain access to their services. Unfortunately, even this is temporary; they will rapidly turn hostile again from X-COM's continued anti-Alien activities.
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|Superhuman||-10
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==Relationships At Game Start==
 
  
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'''The Chart:''' organisation at left likes/dislikes organisation at top, by value.
 
{| {{StdCenterTable}}
 
{| {{StdCenterTable}}
 
|||[[Image:Apoc_xcom_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_aliens_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_govt_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_sirius_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_marsec_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_sd_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_gm_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_cyberweb_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_ts_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_solmine_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_sensovision_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_lifetree_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_nutrivend_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_evonet_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_sanctuary_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_nanotech_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_energen_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_synthemesh_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_gravball_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_psyke_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_diablo_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_osiron_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_self_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_mutant_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_extropians_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_technocr_icon.png]]
 
|||[[Image:Apoc_xcom_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_aliens_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_govt_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_megapol_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_sirius_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_marsec_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_sd_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_gm_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_cyberweb_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_ts_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_solmine_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_sensovision_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_lifetree_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_nutrivend_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_evonet_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_sanctuary_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_nanotech_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_energen_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_synthemesh_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_gravball_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_psyke_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_diablo_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_osiron_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_self_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_mutant_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_extropians_icon.png]]||[[Image:Apoc_technocr_icon.png]]
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*The entries in this table are read as: ''organisation at left of row'' likes/dislikes ''organisation at top of column'' by ''value in box''
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==Friends And Enemies==
*X-COM attitudes are omitted, as X-COM is under player control.
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* Any relationship may be one-sided. If one corporation likes/hates another, that same attitude may not be the other corporation's attitude to the former. eg: the Aliens are indifferent (neutral) to Cult Of Sirius but the cultists revere (allied to) the aliens.
*All starting attitudes are subject to random variation of -10 to +10, with the exception of those listed in bold.
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* Organisations which have a particular attitude of each other may not have the same attitude towards others.<br>
*After this, attitudes not toward X-COM (and not in bold) are also subject to random difficulty adjustment:
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eg: Psyke and Transtellar are hostile to each other. Transtellar is hostile to Cyberweb but Psyke is only unfriendly to Cyberweb. Cyberweb is hostile to both. If Cyberweb attacks Psyke, Transtellar will view that attack on their enemy (Psyke) as a positive action by Cyberweb. Transtellar may now have have a slightly less hatred for Cyberweb! ...basically:<br>
**Negative or zero attitudes not toward the Aliens are worsened by a random number from 0 to 5*difficulty (0 on Novice, 20 on Superhuman)
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**Positive attitudes are improved by a random number from 0 to 3*difficulty (0 on Novice, 12 on Superhuman)
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'''The enemy of my enemy is my friend'''
*Starting attitudes toward X-COM are also subject to fixed difficulty adjustment:
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{| {{StdCenterTable}}
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==Keep Your Friends Close==
|- {{StdDescTable_Heading}}
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Is it important to remain on good terms certain [[Organizations|organisations]] which provide X-Com with a needed service or who provide goods on the market. The most important non-hostile to have is Megapol. If they are hostile they will attack your crafts whenever they approach any policecar or will be chased by police hovercars if you get close to whereever the hovercar(s) is parked.<br>
!Difficulty!!Modifier
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If Megapol is hostile to others which provide Goods And Services to X-Com, those transport crafts (Air-Trans and Auto-Taxi) will be targeted by Megapol for destruction ...no refunds!
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|Novice||0
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==Buying Better Relationships==
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Relations may be repaired towards a more positive attitude for X-Com regarding any organisation which is not allied to (''alien friends'') or [[Alien Infiltration (Apocalypse)|under control]] by the aliens.
|Easy||+5
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===Offer Cash Settlement===
|Medium||0
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X-Com may offer a cash <s>bribe</s> donation to a company which will improve X-Com's relationship to a more positive attitude for every bribe until that organisation is allied. The relationship changes to the next positive level. eg: unfriendly to neutral, neutral to friendly, etc. for each offer made by X-Com.<br>
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The amount of the cash offered will depend on how many extra relation-points (which are unknown) are needed to upgrade to the next level.
|Hard||-5
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* Is always available to attempt, but may not be accepted. Organizations that are allied to the aliens will always refuse since they are ''alien friends''.
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|Superhuman||-10
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===Diplomatic Rift===
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X-Com may be <s>demanded</s> suggested to make a payment to an aggrieved organisation to reset relations to a neutral level.<br>
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Caution: Buying off (offer cash settlement) any organisation that X-Com has annoyed may be a waste of money if the company demands a compensation payout in the near future. Paying their demand will reset relations to a neutral level irrelevant to which relationship level you achieved with your donations.
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* Is randomly 'offered' and only from hostile organisations.
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===Cult Of Sirius===
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The Cult Of Sirius may demand compensation from X-Com due to killing aliens. This temporary relations boost allows 'certain raiding actions' without their usual hostility ...until more aliens are killed.
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===[[Cityscape_Fighting_(Apocalypse)#Bombing_Buildings|Forced Diplomacy]]===
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A cityscape option of easily turning friends into enemies by using their friend's crafts to forment trouble.
  
==EDITING YOUR SAVEGAME==
 
=== Midnight Editor ===
 
  
Available here:
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==See Also==
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* [[Agents_(Apocalypse)|Agents]]
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* [[Difficulty_Levels_(Apocalypse)|Difficulty Levels]]
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* [[Alien_Infiltration_(Apocalypse)|Alien Infiltration]]
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* [[Cityscape_Fighting_(Apocalypse)#Bombing_Buildings|Bombing Buildings]]
  
[http://devisraad.com/xcom/apoc.htm http://devisraad.com/xcom/apoc.htm]
 
*OPTIONAL. just a little bit of '''help with the editor''': Select the first corp, then put sliders at neutral, then click "copy to all corporations" button. Go thru and do this for each corp in the list (except the last one. "Civilians"). Placing everyone neutral to everyone else gives you a good basis to work out who you each corp want to hate or love other. Once you do this, use the list above to tune corp relationships. (CAREFUL! NO = Transtellar vs Megapol = '''many''' destroyed transtellar road taxi).
 
* you MUST make X-COM hostile 100% to Aliens, and Aliens hostile 100% to Xcom or the game WILL start being stupid.
 
* if you make Civilians hostile to everyone else (besides Xcom), aliens and security forces will hunt down and kill the mindless civilians running around the tactical map - CAN HELP IMMENSELY when aliens have run out of Boomeroids by the time they are engaged by Xcom agents.
 
  
===What do the sliders within the editor mean?===
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{{Organizations Navbar}}
There are two sliders for each corp regarding relations (four sliders in total). The top slider of the each pair is dynamic. It moves when a positive or negative aspect impacts the two corps in question.
 
* eg: if Megapol accidently flattens a Superdynamics large flyer factory, then the top slider of the pair will move left (closer to 100% hostile) to denote Superdynamic's anger towards Megapol. Megapol might remain indifferent if it were accidently destroyed.
 
  
The bottom slider of the pair denotes predisposed attitude between two corps. This does not change as it is a bench mark which each corp will use against the other.
 
eg: (same as above example) Superdynamics' hate towards Megapol has increased. SD might ask Megapol for monetary compensation to bring back relations to their formal state. If Megapol doesn't pay up, then raids and/or illegal flyer activity could be an outcome towards Megapol from Superdynamics, or from their allies.
 
  
 
[[Category: Apocalypse]]
 
[[Category: Apocalypse]]
[[Category: Organizations]]
 

Latest revision as of 18:39, 31 October 2023

Relations

Money is the lubrication that makes the cogs move in Mega-Primus. Organisations within the city expect a corporate environment conducive for generating lots of money ...until someone causes an interuption to the flow, which they then become a problem which needs 'fixing'.

Relationships In Mega-Primus

Attitudes between two organisations can be normalised as:

  • Friendly, Neutral or Unfriendly: which means the either company does not concern itself with matters of the other.
  • Allied: where a company will concern itself with matters which have (if any) negatively affected their business partner.
  • Hostile: where two organisations hate each other and will actively try to destroy not only the others wealth but also their very existance in Mega-Primus.

Relations At The Start

Normalised relations before any modifiers have been applied:

OrganizationFriendly/Allied toUnfriendly/Hostile to
Apoc xcom icon.png X-COMApoc govt icon.png Government Apoc megapol icon.png MegapolApoc aliens icon.png Alien Apoc sirius icon.png Cult of Sirius
Apoc aliens icon.png AlienApoc sirius icon.png Cult of SiriusApoc xcom icon.png X-COM
Apoc govt icon.png GovernmentApoc xcom icon.png X-COM Apoc megapol icon.png MegapolApoc aliens icon.png Alien Apoc psyke icon.png Psyke Apoc diablo icon.png Diablo
Apoc megapol icon.png MegapolApoc xcom icon.png X-COM Apoc govt icon.png GovernmentApoc aliens icon.png Alien Apoc marsec icon.png Marsec Apoc ts icon.png Transtellar Apoc psyke icon.png Psyke Apoc diablo icon.png Diablo Apoc osiron icon.png Osiron
Apoc sirius icon.png Cult of SiriusApoc aliens icon.png AlienApoc xcom icon.png X-COM
Apoc marsec icon.png MarsecApoc solmine icon.png Solmine Apoc extropians icon.png ExtropiansApoc megapol icon.png Megapol
Apoc sd icon.png SuperdynamicsApoc gm icon.png General Metro
Apoc gm icon.png General MetroApoc sd icon.png Superdynamics
Apoc cyberweb icon.png CyberwebApoc self icon.png S.E.L.F.Apoc nanotech icon.png Nanotech
Apoc ts icon.png TranstellarApoc aliens icon.png Alien Apoc extropians icon.png ExtropiansApoc megapol icon.png Megapol
Apoc solmine icon.png SolmineApoc marsec icon.png MarsecApoc energen icon.png Energen
Apoc sensovision icon.png SensovisionApoc lifetree icon.png Lifetree Apoc gravball icon.png Grav Ball League Apoc psyke icon.png Psyke Apoc diablo icon.png Diablo Apoc osiron icon.png Osiron
Apoc lifetree icon.png LifetreeApoc sensovision icon.png Sensovision
Apoc nutrivend icon.png NutrivendApoc evonet icon.png Evonet
Apoc evonet icon.png EvonetApoc nutrivend icon.png Nutrivend
Apoc sanctuary icon.png Sanctuary ClinicApoc nanotech icon.png Nanotech
Apoc nanotech icon.png NanotechApoc sanctuary icon.png Sanctuary Clinic
Apoc energen icon.png EnergenApoc solmine icon.png Solmine
Apoc synthemesh icon.png Synthemesh
Apoc gravball icon.png Grav Ball LeagueApoc sensovision icon.png Sensovision Apoc psyke icon.png Psyke Apoc diablo icon.png Diablo Apoc osiron icon.png Osiron
Apoc psyke icon.png PsykeApoc megapol icon.png Megapol Apoc sensovision icon.png Sensovision Apoc gravball icon.png Grav Ball League Apoc diablo icon.png Diablo Apoc osiron icon.png Osiron
Apoc diablo icon.png DiabloApoc megapol icon.png Megapol Apoc sensovision icon.png Sensovision Apoc gravball icon.png Grav Ball League Apoc psyke icon.png Psyke Apoc osiron icon.png Osiron
Apoc osiron icon.png OsironApoc megapol icon.png Megapol Apoc sensovision icon.png Sensovision Apoc psyke icon.png Psyke Apoc diablo icon.png Diablo
Apoc self icon.png S.E.L.F.Apoc mutant icon.png Mutant Alliance1Apoc govt icon.png Government Apoc megapol icon.png Megapol
Apoc mutant icon.png Mutant AllianceApoc self icon.png S.E.L.F.1Apoc govt icon.png Government Apoc megapol icon.png Megapol
Apoc extropians icon.png ExtropiansApoc marsec icon.png Marsec Apoc solmine icon.png SolmineApoc technocr icon.png Technocrats
Apoc technocr icon.png TechnocratsApoc extropians icon.png Extropians

1 Mutant Alliance and S.E.L.F. are set to start slightly friendly to X-Com. However, due to the randomization that happens to every organization's value to another at start they might begin the game with a negative value towards X-Com.
An organisation cannot be eliminated from Mega-Primus. They will always exist and will always be a problem if they remain hostile.

Representation Of Attitudes

Category Relation Score
Allied +75 to +100
Friendly +25 to +74
Neutral -24 to +24
Unfriendly -49 to -25
Hostile -100 to -50

X-Com's attitude towards others is not shown in the chart below since the player is in control.

Modifiers

  • Numbers listed in bold do not get modified at game start.
  • Any organisation listed cannot hate itself. They will always be +100 (allied) with themselves.
  • Aliens and X-Com wil always be hostile -100.

The calculation used for modifying the final relationship corresponds to the Difficulty:

  • 0=Novice, 1=Easy, 2=Medium, 3=Hard, 4=Superhuman.

1. Attitudes are randomised +/- 10 for Normalised Relations (see chart above).
2. Attitudes (except X-Com) are randomised better or worse, limited by (5 x Difficulty).
3. Attitudes (except Aliens) are randomly worsened, limited by (5 x Difficulty).
4. Attitudes between Organisations are randomly improved, limited by (3 x Difficulty).
5. X-Com's attitude to all others is then modified depending on Difficulty:

Difficulty Modifier
Novice 0
Easy +5
Medium 0
Hard -5
Superhuman -10


The Chart: organisation at left likes/dislikes organisation at top, by value.

Apoc xcom icon.png Apoc aliens icon.png Apoc govt icon.png Apoc megapol icon.png Apoc sirius icon.png Apoc marsec icon.png Apoc sd icon.png Apoc gm icon.png Apoc cyberweb icon.png Apoc ts icon.png Apoc solmine icon.png Apoc sensovision icon.png Apoc lifetree icon.png Apoc nutrivend icon.png Apoc evonet icon.png Apoc sanctuary icon.png Apoc nanotech icon.png Apoc energen icon.png Apoc synthemesh icon.png Apoc gravball icon.png Apoc psyke icon.png Apoc diablo icon.png Apoc osiron icon.png Apoc self icon.png Apoc mutant icon.png Apoc extropians icon.png Apoc technocr icon.png
Alien -100 +100 -20 -30 +75 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Government +75 -50 +100 +75 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 -35 0 0 0 0 0
Megapol +75 -50 +75 +100 0 -25 0 0 0 -15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -50 -50 -35 0 0 0 0
Cult of Sirius -50 +100 0 0 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Marsec 0 0 0 -35 0 +100 0 0 0 0 +25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +25 0
Superdynamics 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
General Metro 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Cyberweb 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 +50 0 0 0
Transtellar 0 +20 0 -20 0 0 0 0 0 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +25 0
Solmine 0 0 0 0 0 +25 0 0 0 0 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sensovision 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 -35 -35 -20 0 0 0 0
Lifetree 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Nutrivend 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Evonet 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sanctuary Clinic 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 +25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Nanotech 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +25 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Energen 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Synthemesh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Gravball League 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 -20 -20 -10 0 0 0 0
Psyke 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -20 +100 -50 -35 0 0 0 0
Diablo 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -20 -50 +100 -35 0 0 0 0
Osiron 0 0 0 -20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -10 -35 -35 +100 0 0 0 0
S.E.L.F. +15 0 -25 -15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 +25 0 0
Mutant Alliance +15 0 -25 -10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +25 +100 0 0
Extropians 0 0 0 0 0 +25 0 0 0 0 +25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +100 -35
Technocrats 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -35 +100

Friends And Enemies

  • Any relationship may be one-sided. If one corporation likes/hates another, that same attitude may not be the other corporation's attitude to the former. eg: the Aliens are indifferent (neutral) to Cult Of Sirius but the cultists revere (allied to) the aliens.
  • Organisations which have a particular attitude of each other may not have the same attitude towards others.

eg: Psyke and Transtellar are hostile to each other. Transtellar is hostile to Cyberweb but Psyke is only unfriendly to Cyberweb. Cyberweb is hostile to both. If Cyberweb attacks Psyke, Transtellar will view that attack on their enemy (Psyke) as a positive action by Cyberweb. Transtellar may now have have a slightly less hatred for Cyberweb! ...basically:

The enemy of my enemy is my friend

Keep Your Friends Close

Is it important to remain on good terms certain organisations which provide X-Com with a needed service or who provide goods on the market. The most important non-hostile to have is Megapol. If they are hostile they will attack your crafts whenever they approach any policecar or will be chased by police hovercars if you get close to whereever the hovercar(s) is parked.
If Megapol is hostile to others which provide Goods And Services to X-Com, those transport crafts (Air-Trans and Auto-Taxi) will be targeted by Megapol for destruction ...no refunds!

Buying Better Relationships

Relations may be repaired towards a more positive attitude for X-Com regarding any organisation which is not allied to (alien friends) or under control by the aliens.

Offer Cash Settlement

X-Com may offer a cash bribe donation to a company which will improve X-Com's relationship to a more positive attitude for every bribe until that organisation is allied. The relationship changes to the next positive level. eg: unfriendly to neutral, neutral to friendly, etc. for each offer made by X-Com.
The amount of the cash offered will depend on how many extra relation-points (which are unknown) are needed to upgrade to the next level.

  • Is always available to attempt, but may not be accepted. Organizations that are allied to the aliens will always refuse since they are alien friends.

Diplomatic Rift

X-Com may be demanded suggested to make a payment to an aggrieved organisation to reset relations to a neutral level.
Caution: Buying off (offer cash settlement) any organisation that X-Com has annoyed may be a waste of money if the company demands a compensation payout in the near future. Paying their demand will reset relations to a neutral level irrelevant to which relationship level you achieved with your donations.

  • Is randomly 'offered' and only from hostile organisations.

Cult Of Sirius

The Cult Of Sirius may demand compensation from X-Com due to killing aliens. This temporary relations boost allows 'certain raiding actions' without their usual hostility ...until more aliens are killed.

Forced Diplomacy

A cityscape option of easily turning friends into enemies by using their friend's crafts to forment trouble.


See Also


Apocalypse Insignia X-COM Apocalypse: Organizations
The Good:Apoc xcom.png X-COM Apoc govt.png Government Apoc megapol.png Megapol
The Bad:Apoc aliens.png Alien Apoc sirius.png Cult of Sirius
The Ugly:Apoc cyberweb.png Cyberweb Apoc diablo.png Diablo Apoc energen.png Energen Apoc evonet.png Evonet Apoc extropians.png Extropians
Apoc gm.png General Metro Apoc gravball.png Gravball League Apoc lifetree.png Lifetree Apoc marsec.png Marsec
Apoc mutant.png Mutant Alliance Apoc nanotech.png Nanotech Apoc nutrivend.png Nutrivend Apoc osiron.png Osiron Apoc psyke.png Psyke
Apoc self.png S.E.L.F. Apoc sanctuary.png Sanctuary Clinic Apoc sensovision.png Sensovision Apoc solmine.png Solmine
Apoc sd.png Superdynamics Apoc synthemesh.png Synthemesh Apoc technocr.png Technocrats Apoc ts.png Transtellar