Talk:XCOM: Enemy Within DLC (EU2012)

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That Unknown Symbol

The Symbol sort of resembles the symbol for the Aliens Organization from Apocalypse. My Dad (I live in an X-COM family) suspects the Cult of Sirius to be the "Enemy Within"

Personally I believe the Symbol resembling the symbol for the Alien Organization from Apocalypse to be correct. And considering the truly amazing theories on the Outsiders being extra-dimensional, it is probably whoever is in charge of the Outsiders. However, considering the expansion is called "Enemy Within" the fact that whoever is behind that symbol (Same with the Aliens from Apocalypse)

IMO both symbols aren't really related: Apoc sirius icon.png but that doesn't invalidate the theory that it is a return of the Cult of Sirius. The main difference I see right now is that its shape is hexagonal while XCOM insignias are pentagonal. Inside the shield it has what appears to be Earth's curvature with an eye standing over it. This imagery actually reminds me more of the Inquisitors, the extremist group that fought the Cult and refused any alien influence over Earth. XCOM could be a prime target for them because of its research on alien tech, which would make it as guilty as the aliens. Or we could be looking at some sort of 'black Council', made of the nations that left the project under alien pressure. Or it could just be the insignia for the Meld. Hobbes 21:26, 21 August 2013 (EDT)


Training Roulette?

We know that Shredder Rocket won't be aviliable to other classes, but what about Disabling Shot and Rapid Fire (It would look weird coming from a sniper)?--Ditto51 18:01, 7 September 2013 (EDT)

From what modders at nexusmod have found about the game code concerning the abilities, some can only be used by certain classes (example: Bullet Swarm) and some by certain weapons (example: Disabling Shot/Sniper Rifle). Gupta (the lead designer) stated that abilities related with weapons won't be available with Training Roulette so unless they changed a lot of the abilities code, this means that a Sniper will be able to use Bullet Swarm but a Heavy won't be able to use Disabling Shot. Rapid Fire currently works with all classes, regardless of the weapon. You can see a list of the restrictions here: [1] Hobbes 18:41, 7 September 2013 (EDT)

I'm guessing that Snap Shot can only be used by snipers because all other weapons can be used after you move anyway, but for the places where abilities like shredder Rocket and Snap Shot, will it be that they are always going to be a choice on that class or that that class has a chance of getting that along with other non-weapon specific abilities? --Ditto51 15:02, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

From what I've understood each class will have their weapon specific abilities (Snap Shot, Disabling Shot, ITZ) and the non-weapon specific abilities of the other classes (Tactical Defense, Grenadier, Field Medic, etc.)Hobbes 19:52, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

I don't think I can read the code on that page well enough to figure out (or even if I could figure it out yet): will the Roulette give abilites from any level (ie: I could get Resillience or Sentinel on a Corporal Sniper), or only give abilites from that level (ie; if I wanted to make a HEAT Ammo Squad, since Heavies have the Option at Lieutenant, I'd have to farm/savescum when my Support, Snipers, and Assaults reach Lieutenant and try then?).--Xuncu 04:39, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

It hasn't been clarified yet if the abilities will still be tied to a certain rank.Hobbes 08:02, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

This may or may not have anything to do with this second wave feature, but is there a mod that allows for human soldiers to have alien abilities like Mind Merge or the Lift?--Ditto51 17:39, 20 September 2013 (EDT)~

Yes, there's a mod that reworks the psionic perks, along with several other major changes, it's Long War or something. Check the Nexusmods forums. Hobbes 17:40, 28 September 2013 (EDT)

Rapid Reaction + Sentinel: According to a forum post a soldier can't get both of them, but forum is down now unfortunately. Moyang 18:33, 19 November 2013 (EST)

Makes sense not to get both since they're almost the same. But There's something fishy going on with Rapid Reaction. I think I've seen my RR Sniper fire 3 times with it. Here's the situation: during my turn I set my Sniper on Overwatch and then use Flush to make an EXALT move out of cover. Squad Sight Sniper fires and misses the first shot, but kills it with its second. But then, during EXALT's turn I think my Sniper fired again at another EXALT agent, making it 3 shots. I'm gonna test this again tonight.
Well, I've been bringing a squad with 4 soldiers with Sentinel and 2 with Rapid Reaction and although the RR ones have been acting as normal, having this amount of Overwatch firepower has made me to rely more with reaction fire tactics and some very unorthodox squads. This experience with Training Roulette is making me think that we'll need a specific page for it because of the combinations and different tactics it allows. Hobbes 21:24, 20 November 2013 (EST)

Updating the EU2012 section with EW content

All right ladies and gents, we need to start working on getting the content (and clearing it first of inaccurate info) of this page out to specific pages and figuring a way to differentiate EW content on already existing pages. Here's a rough list of what is required:

Existing Page Updates

New Pages

Several of these pages (weapons, equipment, aliens, etc.) already have the templates on them, it's only needed to fill those out. The templates can be found here.

Just to inform everyone that I've successfully extracted the game images of basically everything new (weapons, medals, icons, maps, etc.). It's going to take me some time to sort it out and figure what is what but pretty soon we're getting them here. :) Hobbes 23:07, 14 November 2013 (EST)

International Service Cross Medal

I had two of them, sorry I don't have a screenshot since I finished that Ironman run. Moyang 04:01, 19 November 2013 (EST)

Now with SC: http://i44.tinypic.com/2rmuwhy.jpg Moyang 23:11, 20 November 2013 (EST)
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