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Guides and Tips Section

This is related to a parallel discussion at Talk:Classic_vs_Impossible_(EU2012). The idea I've expressed there was to reorganize this section since it's pretty much a collection of mix matched pages. Here's my suggestion on how to reorganize the Guides and Tips section of the EU2012 Table:

General

Survival Guide

General tips/wisdom about everything in the game.

Strategy - Description of all the factors regarding strategy (game objectives explanation, mission & aliens first appearances, etc.) and links to all strategies currently available, either on the UFOPaedia or other sites. Check the link for a first draft.

Satellite Rush - to be written using already existing Unlucky Man's Satellite_Rush_Strategy and User:Xuncu's Panic Management strat.

Alien Base Rush - to be written.

Impossible Guide

Specific Game Guides - with links to all the guides not in the list below

Air Combat

Building Optimization

Any comments/ideas? Hobbes 08:16, 21 December 2013 (EST)

Anything that consolidates information, reduces clutter and improves readability is something I'll get behind. Just let me know what you need help correcting.--DracoGriffin 15:24, 21 December 2013 (EST)

Strategy/Tactical guides

The first draft of the Strategy (EU2012) page is already up. The way I'm picturing it, there should be two main pages/guides, one for Strategy (everything going on at HQ) and the other for Tactical (combat missions). The existing guides (Air Combat, etc.) listed above should all be referenced and linked to on the Strategy page. The main issue right now is to identify content that should be in the Strategy page and create it, if necessary. Hobbes (talk) 09:10, 3 January 2014 (EST)

The Strategy page is nearly finished. I've taken a lot of info from Survival Guide, Continent Bonus Analysis, Commander's Briefing, Panic and even Impossible Guide. The Survival Guide page should be combed for the tactical tips (which should go to the Tactics (EU2012) page and be deleted, and I've used all the info already on Continent Bonus Analysis. The Panic, Impossible and Commander Briefing pages only need be have the repeated info removed. I'd still like to have at least two pages for the Satellite Rush and Alien Base strategies created. All of the other pages under Guides (Economy, Storyline Missions, Murphy's laws, Air Combat and Building Optimization remain as they are, I've merely provided links on Strategy for them. There should be also a specific page about the RNG (currently under Survival Guide) since it affects both Strategy and Tactical. The Impossible page and the Normal vs. Classic section of the Survival Guide also need to be reorganized.

The Tactics (EU2012) page is the next challenge since it involves a lot that hasn't been covered anywhere yet. Hobbes (talk) 12:13, 5 February 2014 (EST)

I still have my EW/Impossible/No-loss rush guide on my talk page, but ya seem to have most things covered. May still be good as notes, so feel free to gank anything from it that you may find useful. --Xuncu (talk) 17:37, 5 February 2014 (EST)

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I know this is small thing to obsess about, but it would be nice if a Fav Icon was installed. We can always just shrink the site logo. But this site is one of few that does not get small icon besides it title in my bookmarks. --Sunesha 06:54, 6 December 2013 (EST)

Sweet, it is easier to see what bookmarks belongs to this site now :) --Sunesha (talk) 16:38, 30 December 2013 (EST)

No problem - wasn't sure how clear it would be but it came out nicely :) --Pete (talk) 05:01, 1 January 2014 (EST)

EU2012 Table

I've been having a fresh look at the table and I feel there are couple of links missing that would be useful to have under soldiers, namely for the Gene Mods and the individual soldier classes. So I decided to try to integrate them and here's the result: Hobbes 18:52, 17 December 2013 (EST)

XCOM: Enemy Unknown (2012) / Enemy Within DLC

XCOM

Officer Training School

Soldiers

Aliens

EXALT

Missions

Guides & Tips

Building Optimization

Classic vs Impossible

General DLC

Slingshot DLC

Friends in Low Places

Progeny

Multiplayer

Miscellaneous

Game Universe/Artwork

List of all Abilities

XCOM Heroes

Making The Game Harder

Glossary of Terms

Technical Information

Its good but looks very cluttered with the pictures on the right on the actually page.

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XCOM: Enemy Unknown is the 2012 remake of the classic game UFO: Enemy Unknown or X-COM: UFO Defense in North America. If you'd like to contribute please check the Wiki Tips page for useful information on how to edit pages, etc. And also check the Discussion section of this page or the To Do list.

XCOM: Enemy Unknown (2012) / Enemy Within DLC

Overview

XCOM

Officer Training School

Soldiers

Aliens

EXALT

Missions

Guides & Tips

Continent Bonus Analysis

Air Combat

Survival Guide

Building Optimization

Classic vs Impossible

List of all Abilities

General DLC

Slingshot DLC

Friends in Low Places

Progeny

Multiplayer

Miscellaneous

Game Universe/Artwork

XCOM Heroes

Making The Game Harder

Glossary of Terms

Murphy's Laws (XCOM)

Technical Information

Should we seperate stuff that is actually to do with the base and gameplay from the difficulty and achievements?--Ditto51 18:31, 27 December 2013 (EST)

To Miscellaneous? Hobbes 19:22, 27 December 2013 (EST)

The Original X-COM had a general information section and an X-COM organisation section for the base and soldiers. So I meant make another heading and split it into anything that is controllable in game like the base and units and a section for difficulty and Achievements.--Ditto51 13:14, 28 December 2013 (EST)

What do you think of the above changes? Hobbes 14:46, 28 December 2013 (EST)

That looks a lot better--Ditto51 (talk) 08:01, 29 December 2013 (EST)

EU2012 Table Discussion

Can we please discuss any changes to the table before changing it individually?

Abilities (EU2012) should stay under Miscellaneous section since it is nothing more than a list of all abilities
Why did Murphy's Laws (X-COM) go to Miscellaneous?
Continent Bonus Analysis (EU2012) is a redundant page with Starting Locations and the whole Guides and Tips section is going to be reworked (see above post), so if you think something is missing better to discuss it there. Hobbes (talk) 16:55, 2 January 2014 (EST)

I moved The Abilities because people can use it to decide on how to combat the various aliens or how to use them in multiplayer.~

The individual alien pages and the Overviews of Aliens (EU2012) are already meant to detail specific aspects of the aliens. The Abilities page is nothing more than a list of abilities for technical aspects (modding, etc.) and for reference (since it contains obsolete abilities).

I moved Murphy's Laws (X-COM) to Miscellaneous because it isn't really a guide or tips it is more of a list of worst case scenarios that can and probably will go wrong because of the RNG, it doesn't really offer any type of guide.

If you have a document describing what can go wrong, doesn't it act as a guide to help people avoiding those bad case scenarios?

Yeah, I made that because of this, either way none of it belonged on the Situation Room page where it was originally.

--Ditto51 (talk) 17:03, 2 January 2014 (EST)

It was listed on the Situation Room because it is the place where you launch satellites and cover continents with them. But there's no point in having two separate Starting Base Location and Continental Bonuses Analyses with the same content. Both should be merged on the same page. Hobbes (talk) 17:21, 2 January 2014 (EST)

First and Last I will submit to because what you say make sense, but the majority of the Murphy's Laws are things that can't be avoided or rely heavily on the RNG, like "if you have a 99% or less you will miss". That can't be avoided, much like lots of them.--Ditto51 (talk) 17:31, 2 January 2014 (EST)

Why is Flanking on the table if it just a redirect to the Cover Page which is already on the table?--Ditto51 (talk) 13:49, 9 January 2014 (EST)

I think I had noticed that a while ago but forgot about it. Remove it? Hobbes (talk) 21:45, 9 January 2014 (EST)

I'm not actually sure, it is still a gameplay mechanic even if it is a redirect.--Ditto51 (talk) 04:18, 10 January 2014 (EST)

Its pointless to have repeated links on the main table IMO. If the topic requires a page, then one should be written before the link is added to the table. Hobbes (talk) 06:56, 10 January 2014 (EST)

I'd like to propose 2 additional links to the table: Alien Deployment and Damage Hobbes (talk) 14:55, 24 January 2014 (EST)

No comments here, so bump this thread. I've been checking the site stats and the Hero page is one of the top 20 EU2012 pages being visited so it might make some sense to add it as well.

Still no comments, so I'll go and change it. I'm also finishing the Strategy page, although it will also imply a rewrite/elimination of several existing pages since I centralized there a lot of dispersed info and there's no point in having repeated info. Hobbes (talk) 12:00, 5 February 2014 (EST)

Enemy Unknown (2012)

XCOM: Enemy Unknown это ремейк 2012 года классической игры UFO: Enemy Unknown или X-COM: UFO Defense в Северной Америке. If you'd like to contribute please check the Wiki Tips page for useful information on how to edit pages, etc. And also check the Discussion section of this page or the To Do list.

Привет! Are you proposing any changes to the EU2012 page? Hobbes (talk) 11:40, 12 January 2014 (EST)

XCOM: Enemy Unknown (2012) / Enemy Within DLC

Overview

Headquarters

Officer Training School

Soldier

Aliens

EXALT

Missions

Guides & Tips

Building Optimization

List of all Abilities

General DLC

Slingshot DLC

Friends in Low Places

Progeny

Multiplayer

Miscellaneous

Game Universe/Artwork

XCOM Heroes

Making The Game Harder

Glossary of Terms

Murphy's Laws (XCOM)

Technical Information

XCOM Cover
Intro Screen
Enemy Within poster
Enemy Within Main Menu

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-I've been trying to add as much information as possible as best I can, mostly by basing it off existing wiki code from other pages.  So much of the data cross references and/or interacts with items in other sections (artifacts being used in research, manufacturing, grey market, etc).  For now, I'm trying to do as little cross referencing as possible, unless there is already an existing page for it.  At least until I become more comfortable with the process.  The Wiki Tips link you added at the top of the main page was helpful.  Thank you.  ~ [[User:Drakalu|Drakalu]] 14:16, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
+__TOC__
-: I'm dumping most of the info from the demo files, that should take a while to sort out and organize (watchout for the info on the Research since it reveals the ending) - thanks for the help :) [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 14:36, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
+[[Talk:Enemy Unknown (EU2012)/Archive|Archive]]
-: Btw, do you think you can make a template for the topics that you're working at right now? [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 14:42, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
-:: Not sure what you mean by template.  I started with a multi-level list in Word so I've been working off that just to get the data entered.  So far its mostly just information on items, research, facilities, workshop projects, etc.  Your table for abilities was much cleaner than what I had.  I'll try to whip something up.  Also, most of the data I've been entering is based off the various Press preview videos.  I figure I've seen them enough that nothing in them will truly be a spoiler at this point.  ~ [[User:Drakalu|Drakalu]] 16:13, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
-:: A template is a model for pages. For instance check the original [[Rifle]] and [[Heavy_Plasma]] pages you can see that they follow roughly the same format, starting with Stats, Recommendations, Tips, etc. It's easier if you already have a format, then you can just copy paste it and people can just fill the pages - I've just made one for Equipment. About spoilers, just be careful when going through the Research because it contains spoilers about the end of the game, if you don't want to know about it. [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 17:40, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
-WHo keeps undoing the edits I did today?  Continuing to use "Geoscape" as its own header does not fit with the actual gameplay.  HQ needs to be the main headline.  The base as a whole has all the facilities in it. Research is a concept encompassing both Science Labs and Laboratories. Manufacturing encompasses Engineering, Workshops, and Foundries. Gray Market will be important as people will want to go somewhere for quick price comparisons.
+== Guides and Tips Section==
-:I did and I explained the reasons on the table's [[Talk:EU2012_Table]] page. I just reverted back all yours edits again to the previous version. [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 06:59, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
+This is related to a parallel discussion at [[Talk:Classic_vs_Impossible_(EU2012)]]. The idea I've expressed there was to reorganize this section since it's pretty much a collection of mix matched pages. Here's my suggestion on how to reorganize the Guides and Tips section of the [[EU2012 Table]]:
+'''General'''
-Hobbes, you reverted my edits twice in an 11 hour period and then protected the table to prevent further editing. You also did not attempt to discuss with me before the final revert and protect. This is edit warring and it is not consistent with the bold, revert, discuss principle.
+[[Survival Guide (EU2012)|Survival Guide]]
+* General tips/wisdom about everything in the game.
+[[Strategy (EU2012)|Strategy]] - Description of all the factors regarding strategy (game objectives explanation, mission & aliens first appearances, etc.) and links to all strategies currently available, either on the UFOPaedia or other sites. Check the link for a first draft.
+:[[Satellite Rush (EU2012)|Satellite Rush]] - to be written using already existing Unlucky Man's [[Survival Guide (EU2012)#Satellite_Rush_Strategy|Satellite_Rush_Strategy]] and [[User:Xuncu]]'s [[Talk:Classic_vs_Impossible_(EU2012)#Panic Management|Panic Management]] strat.
+:[[Alien Base Rush (EU2012)|Alien Base Rush]] - to be written.
-While you obviously have a lot of experience with XCOM and the UFOPaedia, please understand that EU 2012 is NOT the same game. Therefore, the main page is going to look different. For example, the Geoscape is no longer what it was in 1994. In '94, it was the main place to start all your actions including patrols, interdictions, and to access the base and its functions. In EU2012, the "Geoscape" is merely a blue globe in the Mission Control facility where you advance time and choose missions.
+[[Classic vs Impossible (EU2012)|Impossible Guide]]
-Bottom line, it makes sense for the UFOPaedia pages to resemble the flow and structure of the game. Continuing the old format will only confuse visitors, ultimately encouraging them to go elsewhere for their information.
+[[Guides (EU2012)|Specific Game Guides]] - with links to all the guides not in the list below
+:[[Air Combat (EU2012)|Air Combat]]
+:[[Building Optimization]]
+:[[Economy]]
+:[[Panic (EU2012)|Panic]]
+:[[Storyline Missions (EU2012)|Story Walkthrough]]
+:[[Murphy's Laws (X-COM)#Strategic (Enemy Unknown)|Murphy's Laws (XCOM)]]
-: All XCOM strategy games (EU, TFTD, Apoc, EU 2012) follow the same design/logic: you win by playing Geoscape/Cityscape and sending Interceptors and Skyrangers from there, not by managing your base(s). Doesn't matter if you have one base or more - the fact that you only have one in Enemy Unknown 2012 adds for a lot more detail the base management level of the game but your base is just one aspect of the whole game. Hobbes 11:12, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
+Any comments/ideas? [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 08:16, 21 December 2013 (EST)
-:: There are two basic components to the game as you noted, but they are not Geoscape and Cityscape anymore. That was 1994.
-:: Now the strategy layer is handled in XCOM HQ / the Base / the Ant Farm. The Geoscape, the blue rotating orb of the Earth, isn't even its own facility, it's a focal point of Mission Control. Strategy is now handled at the Base. Half of winning the game is the Base: constructing facilities, adjacency bonuses, research, manufacturing, managing panic, funding, soliders, etc. The Geoscape is really just the filling in one slice of the whole pie.
+:Anything that consolidates information, reduces clutter and improves readability is something I'll get behind. Just let me know what you need help correcting.--[[User:DracoGriffin|DracoGriffin]] 15:24, 21 December 2013 (EST)
+===Strategy/Tactical guides===
+The first draft of the [[Strategy (EU2012)]] page is already up. The way I'm picturing it, there should be two main pages/guides, one for Strategy (everything going on at HQ) and the other for Tactical (combat missions). The existing guides (Air Combat, etc.) listed above should all be referenced and linked to on the Strategy page. The main issue right now is to identify content that should be in the Strategy page and create it, if necessary. [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] ([[User talk:Hobbes|talk]]) 09:10, 3 January 2014 (EST)
+: The [[Strategy (EU2012)|Strategy]] page is nearly finished. I've taken a lot of info from [[Survival Guide (EU2012)|Survival Guide]],  [[Continent Bonus Analysis (EU2012)|Continent Bonus Analysis]], [[XCOM (EU2012)|Commander's Briefing]], [[Panic (EU2012)|Panic]] and even [[Classic vs Impossible (EU2012)|Impossible Guide]]. The Survival Guide page should be combed for the tactical tips (which should go to the [[Tactics (EU2012)]] page and be deleted, and I've used all the info already on [[Continent Bonus Analysis (EU2012)|Continent Bonus Analysis]]. The Panic, Impossible and Commander Briefing pages only need be have the repeated info removed. I'd still like to have at least two pages for the Satellite Rush and Alien Base strategies created. All of the other pages under Guides (Economy, Storyline Missions, Murphy's laws, Air Combat and Building Optimization remain as they are, I've merely provided links on Strategy for them. There should be also a specific page about the RNG (currently under Survival Guide) since it affects both Strategy and Tactical. The Impossible page and the Normal vs. Classic section of the Survival Guide also need to be reorganized.
+: The [[Tactics (EU2012)]] page is the next challenge since it involves a lot that hasn't been covered anywhere yet. [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] ([[User talk:Hobbes|talk]]) 12:13, 5 February 2014 (EST)
+::I still have my EW/Impossible/No-loss rush guide on my [[User_talk:Xuncu|talk page]], but ya seem to have most things covered. May still be good as notes, so feel free to gank anything from it that you may find useful. --[[User:Xuncu|Xuncu]] ([[User talk:Xuncu|talk]]) 17:37, 5 February 2014 (EST)
-:: It does not make sense to format the main page in a way that is inconsistent with the game's presentation. The game presents you the entire base and you choose each facility from there to manage the strategy. The Wiki should be presented consistent with the game so that people click on links that logically flow the same way as the game. Therefore, the main page should go to the over-arching XCOM HQ page and list out major functions under that like the whole of Base Facilities, the major concepts of Research and Manufacturing... I also think a quick link to the Gray Market will help since it will be an oft used page. Details of each facility, like the fact that Mission Control contains the Geoscape, should be embedded further in when you go to the HQ page or subsequent Base Facilities and Mission Control pages.  --[[User:Robbx213|Robbx213]] 11:40, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
+== Fav. Icon for the site ==
+I know this is small thing to obsess about, but it would be nice if a Fav Icon was installed. We can always just shrink the site logo. But this site is one of few that does not get small icon besides it title in my bookmarks. --[[User:Sunesha|Sunesha]] 06:54, 6 December 2013 (EST)
-::: I don't want to abuse my position as an administrator but: a) You changed the table from the format followed for all XCOM game tables on this wiki. b) I reverted and placed a notice on the page's Talk page. c) You reverted and didn't check the talk page. Since I don't want to get into a war of edits I protected the table. The other administrators can and should intervene if it's necessary but what I did was to keep wiki consistency and prevent the main table from being constantly edited. Hobbes 11:35, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
+Sweet, it is easier to see what bookmarks belongs to this site now :) --[[User:Sunesha|Sunesha]] ([[User talk:Sunesha|talk]]) 16:38, 30 December 2013 (EST)
+:No problem - wasn't sure how clear it would be but it came out nicely :) --[[User:Pete|Pete]] ([[User talk:Pete|talk]]) 05:01, 1 January 2014 (EST)
-:::: I'm new and obviously struggled at first to understand the Table that was somehow separate from the page it was embedded in, as well as the Discussion tab up to the left but all the help pages refer to "Talk".  There's an obvious disagreement about content here, so that's what we need to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:DR#Focus_on_content focus on].  "Consistency" is not a valid reason to maintain the old format.  The game is different, its format and presentation is different, therefore the Wiki should be different such that it's more in-line with the new game's structure.  EU (2012) is not Terror From the Deep; a simple re-skin.  If you want this wiki to be the go-to place, you're going to have to simplify it by making it flow the same way the game does.  There are many other wikis already forming; people will go where it's simple and easy to understand.  If this wiki's format differs from how the game is presented, people will get confused, they will get grumpy about having to click around and mine information, and ultimately the community's enjoyment of both will suffer. --[[User:Robbx213|Robbx213]] 11:52, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
+==EU2012 Table==
+I've been having a fresh look at the table and I feel there are couple of links missing that would be useful to have under soldiers, namely for the Gene Mods and the individual soldier classes. So I decided to try to integrate them and here's the result: [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 18:52, 17 December 2013 (EST)
-::::: I'm sorry to disagree but if you really feel that you cannot compromise and follow what has been considered 'consistency' (and pretty much official policy) by the 2K developer team and this wiki's regular users then do what you feel you must. If you check Wikipedia's article on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XCOM:_Enemy_Unknown|XCOM: Enemy Unknown] you'll see the strategic element being called 'Geoscape' and Jake Solomon and 2K have also used the term frequently and on their site. [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 12:14, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
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-:::::: You meant [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XCOM:_Enemy_Unknown this] Wikipedia article.  They do say Geoscape; and they too describe it inaccurately. (P.S. those few contributors do not constitute 'official policy')  ''The game's strategy element is confined to the global view called the "Geoscape"...'' Strategy is not confined to the Geoscape, strategy is the whole Base.  Keep reading and they actually say this in the same sentence, contradicting themselves in the process:  ''... where the player keeps track of the situation ... conducts resource and personnel management ... directing research ... and production, interacting with the governments ... ordering their aircraft ... and dispatching their soldiers...''  The Geoscape, inside the Mission Control facility, can order aircraft and dispatch soldiers.  That's it.  'Situation' is in the Situation Room, personnel are in places like Barracks & Infirmary, research is Sci Labs and Labs, production is Engineering Workshop & Foundry, Funding Council is inside the Situation Room...  Geoscape is not the strategy layer, the entire base is the strategy layer.  The Geoscape is like the Funding Council: it's an important part of the game, but it's not even the name of the facility in which it resides.
+: [[XCOM (EU2012)|Commander's Briefing]]
-:::::: When Jake and other 2K people refer to the Geoscape, they mean the blue globe.  They do not mean the whole base nor the whole strategy layer.  If the whole strategy layer could be controlled from the Geoscape (again, inside Mission Control) then the Ant Farm would not even exist.  Watch [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FaR-oDSxb3I#t=708s this] and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FaR-oDSxb3I#t=5338s this (with Jake himself manning the helm)] for a clear visual of how the Geoscape is not the base and therefore not the entire strategy layer, rather only a feature of the Mission Control facility.  Watch [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qBvuNhq0ZCg#t=1499s this] to see how Jake describes the evolution of the strategy layer and how his & Sid's prototypes are really the fore-runner of the Situation Room, not the Geoscape (inside Mission Control).  So, Jake himself does not consider the Geoscape to be the "strategy layer".  They don't even really call it the Geoscape, they call it [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qBvuNhq0ZCg#t=1925s the Globe].  There are tons more videos throughout YouTube.
+: [[XCOM_Base_Location_(EU2012)|Base Location]]
-:::::: If you want consistency, make it consistent with the new game rather than consistent with 1994's game format.  I think the game's format, which has actually been witnessed in video and described during interview, should be taken as the 'official policy' rather than taking the old game's structure.  If the old game's structure were 'official policy', Jake et al. would not differentiate this game from the old by avoiding calling it a pure remake or reboot.  It's different, they say so, therefore the wiki needs to evolve away from 1994 and match the new game.  Also, you can't just randomly call something 'official policy' to make it sound more important.  If you want official policy, read the articles and watch the videos from [http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?117515-X-COM-Information-Summarized-READ-ME-FIRST! this 2K Forum Post].  When 2K Greg stickies it, that probably means it's 'official policy'.
+: [[The Council (EU2012)|The Council]]
-:::::: {{subst:drn-notice}} [[User:Robbx213|Robbx213]] 14:01, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
+: [[Difficulty (EU2012)|Difficulty Levels]]
-::::::: I know that topic quite well I wouldn't call a sticked thread made by a user 'official policy'. But by going through the list of features on the first has a strategic category that englobes Funding Council, Missions, Satellite cover and base management. Zero reference to HQ being the strategic layer. And his division is how the majority of players from the original games will look at it.
-::::::: Geoscape is a classic term from the series to refer to both the world globe and the Strategic level and that remained throughout the series and that both Jake Solomon and the 2K team keep using even if the term is not present in the game. The HQ base (which I love) is how you access both the strategic layer (through the Situation Room) and the world globe (through Situation Room and Mission Control) but by itself it's not the strategic layer because it's not where the center of the action is. If you put HQ as the strategic category up there it seems that the strategy involves mainly running your base and projects, which is not strategy. Strategy is determining objectives and goals based on your needs and current resources - that is separate from actually putting the strategy into place, which is what you do with base and soldier management, to allow you to achieve those goals.
-::::::: Now, what I've been thinking so far with all of this discussion: should the strategic layer have another name? Possibly, I'm not a zealot of keeping everything from the old game. One thing for sure would be to move up the links for Mission Control and Situation Room to replace the current Geoscape link (and if the game has a new name for it, rename the page). It may even be that XCOM HQ is the best term but there needs to be a clear separation between base management and the rest of the strategic layer of the game. [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 14:47, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
-:::::::: I've asked at 2K's and the wiki's forums about names from the strategic layer and the responses have been: Geoscape, Ant Farm, Basescape, Strategic Layer and The Base, the closest to your suggestion of XCOM HQ. I've been also looking at the demo files and 'Geoscape' appears on the demo code to refer to the world globe, which makes it a game term. [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 10:45, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
-::::::::: "... there needs to be a clear separation between base management and the rest of the strategic layer of the game ..."  I fundamentally disagree.  I believe base management is part of strategy, not separate.  I agree that "Strategy is determining objectives and goals based on your needs and current resources..."  But I do not see that as "separate from actually putting the strategy into place..."  To me, executing the strategy is part of the strategy.  I think we're agreeing that 'base management' is choosing facilities, choosing research, choosing production, choosing/promoting soldiers.  But to me, that is all part of the strategy.  Good base management, aka good strategy, sets you up for success in tactical combat.  For example, let's say I choose a strategy of research & manufacturing at the expense of satellite coverage.  I accomplish that across the base by building more labs, foundries, and workshops and at the same time building fewer uplinks / substituting Nexus (Nexi?) / focusing the satellites I do launch over high-paying / high-panic countries / enough countries not to trigger 'doomsday'.  So let's assume the game still calls the Globe the Geoscape; to me, the Globe is just one piece of strategy; actually, I think the Situation Room is a better strategy tool than the Globe.  To me, the Globe has very little strategy use.  Basically, you pick which mission you're going to accept.  Panic, satellites, aircraft, funds, gray market... I can access all that together in the Situation Room.  To me, all of that is 'managing global sentiment (& funding)', which is only a portion of the overall strategy to manage sentiment long enough to get the soldiers, euqipment, and progress to go win the game.  Anywho, I've found another avenue so rather than reiterate the same points to each other over and over, let's just move on and leave it as you wish.  You win.
+:: [[Second Wave (EU2012)|Second Wave]]
+: [[Achievements (EU2012)|Achievements]]
+[[XCOM Headquarters (EU2012)|Headquarters]]
+: [[Mission Control (EU2012)|Mission Control]]
+: [[Research (EU2012)|Research]]
+:: [[Genetics Lab (EU2012)|Genetics Lab]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+: [[Engineering (EU2012)|Engineering]]
+:: [[Foundry_(EU2012)|Foundry]]
+::: [[S.H.I.V. (EU2012)|S.H.I.V.]]
+:: [[Cybernetics Lab (EU2012)|Cybernetics Lab]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|E1W DLC]]
+:[[Barracks (EU2012)|Barracks]]
+:: [[OTS_(EU2012)| Officer Training School]]
+:: [[Memorial (EU2012)|Memorial]]
+: [[Hangar (EU2012)|Hangar]]
+: [[Situation Room (EU2012)|Situation Room]]
+:: [[Gray Market (EU2012)|Gray Market]]
+:: [[Finances (EU2012)|Finances]]
+:: [[Covert Operations (EU2012)|Covert Operations]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+|-
+|}
+</td>
+<td style="width: 220px; border:1px gray solid;">
+{| {{stdTable}} width="100%" style="border:none;"
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[Image:Lone_Wolf_(EU2012).jpg|30px]] '''Soldiers'''
+|-
+| [[Soldiers (EU2012)|Soldiers]]
+: [[Classes (EU2012)|Classes]]
+:: [[Assault (EU2012)|Assault]]
+:: [[Heavy (EU2012)|Heavy]]
+:: [[Sniper (EU2012)|Sniper]]
+:: [[Support (EU2012)|Support]]
+:: [[Psionic (EU2012)|Psionic]]
+:: [[MEC Trooper (EU2012)|MEC Trooper]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+: [[Armor (EU2012)|Armor]]
+: [[Equipment (EU2012)#Portable Equipment|Equipment]]
+: [[Weapons (EU2012)|Weapons]]
+: [[Gene Mods (EU2012)|Gene Mods]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+: [[Medals (EU2012)|Medals]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+: [[Covert Operative (EU2012)|Covert Operative]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+|-
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Head red 2.png|30px]] '''Aliens'''
+|-
+| [[Alien Life Forms (EU2012)|Alien Life Forms]]
+:[[Overviews of Aliens (EU2012)|Overview of Aliens]]
+:[[Alien Stats (EU2012)|Alien Stats]]
+|-
+| [[UFOs (EU2012)|UFOs]]
+|-
+|[[Alien Artifacts (EU2012)|Alien Artifacts]]
+: [[Meld (EU2012)|Meld]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:EXALT Insignia (EU2012).png|25px]] '''EXALT''' [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+|-
+|
+[[EXALT (EU2012)|EXALT]]
+: [[EXALT Units (EU2012)|Soldiers]]
+: [[EXALT Weapons (EU2012)|Equipment]]
+|}
+</td>
+<td style="width: 220px; border:1px gray solid;">
+{| {{stdTable}} width="100%" style="border:none;"
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Skyranger Pilot (EU2012).png|30px]] '''Missions'''
+|-
+| [[Gameplay Mechanics (EU2012)|Gameplay Mechanics]]
+: [[Chance to Hit (EU2012)|Chance to Hit]]
+: [[Cover (EU2012)|Cover]]
+: [[Critical Wounds (EU2012)|Critical Wounds]]
+: [[Flanking (EU2012)|Flanking]]
+: [[Overwatch (EU2012)|Overwatch]]
+: [[Suppression (EU2012)|Suppression]]
+[[Tactics (EU2012)|Combat Tactics]]
+: [[Squads (EU2012)| Squads]]
+[[Missions (EU2012)|Mission Types]]
+: [[Mission Names (EU2012)|Mission Names]]
+: [[After Action Report (EU2012)|After Action Report]]
+[[Maps (EU2012)|Maps]]
+: [[Map Tables (EU2012)|Tables]]
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Bradford Small (EU2012).png|30px]] '''Guides & Tips'''
+|-
+|
+[[Air Combat (EU2012)|Air Combat]]
+[[Survival Guide (EU2012)|Survival Guide]]
+[[Building Optimization]]
+[[Economy]]
+[[Panic (EU2012)|Panic]]
+[[Storyline Missions (EU2012)|Story Walkthrough]]
+[[Class Builds (EU2012)|Class Builds]]
+[[Classic vs Impossible (EU2012)|Classic vs Impossible]]
+[[Murphy's Laws (X-COM)#Strategic (Enemy Unknown)|Murphy's Laws (XCOM)]]
+|}
+</td>
+<td style="width:220px; border:1px gray solid;">
+{| {{stdTable}} width="100%" style="border:none;"
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Shen Small (EU2012).png|30px]] '''General DLC'''
+|-
+|
+[[DLC (EU2012)|General Information]]
+: [[Elite Soldier Pack DLC (EU2012)|Elite Soldier Pack]]
+: [[XCOM: Enemy Within DLC (EU2012)|Enemy Within]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:New Friend (EU2012).jpg|30px]] '''Slingshot DLC'''
+|-
+|
+[[Slingshot DLC (EU2012)|Operation Slingshot]]
+: [[Friends in Low Places (EU2012)|Friends in Low Places]]
+: [[Confounding Light (EU2012)|Confounding Light]]
+: [[Gangplank (EU2012)|Gangplank]]
+: [[Shaojie Zhang (EU2012)|Shaojie Zhang]]
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Saved to Savior (EU2012).jpg|30px]] '''Progeny''' [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+|-
+|
+[[Progeny (EU2012)|Operation Progeny]]
+: [[Portent (EU2012)|Portent]]
+: [[Deluge (EU2012)|Deluge]]
+: [[Furies (EU2012)|Furies]]
+: [[Annette Durand (EU2012)|Annette Durand]]
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Meet New People Then Kill Them (EU2012).jpg|30px]] '''Multiplayer'''
+|-
+|
+[[Multiplayer (EU2012)|Multiplayer]]
+: [[Maps (EU2012)|Maps]]
+: [[Multiplayer Tactics (EU2012)|Multiplayer Tactics]]
+: [[Multiplayer Builds (EU2012)|Squad Builds]]
+|}
+</td>
+<td style="width:220px; border:1px gray solid;">
+{| {{stdTable}} width="100%" style="border:none;"
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Happy to Oblige (EU2012).jpg|30px]] '''Miscellaneous'''
+|-
+|
+[[Game Credits (EU2012)|Game Credits]]
+[[Storyline (EU2012)|Storyline]]
+[[News Items (EU2012)|News Ticker]]
+[[Game Universe (EU2012)|Game Universe/Artwork]]
+[[Abilities (EU2012)|List of all Abilities]]
+[[Hero (EU2012)|XCOM Heroes]]
+[[Making The Game Harder (EU2012)|Making The Game Harder]]
+[[Glossary|Glossary of Terms]]
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Combat Ready (EU2012).jpg|30px]] '''Technical Information'''
+|-
+|
+[[Patches (EU2012)| Patches]]
+[[Bugs (EU2012)| Bugs]]
+[[Mods (EU2012)| Mods & Suggestions]]
+[[Game Editors (EU2012)|Game Editors]]
+[[Game Files (EU2012)|Game Files]]
+[[Unused Features (EU2012)|Unused Features]]
+[[Wiki Tips (EU2012)|Wiki Tips]]
+|}
+</td>
+</tr>
+</table>
+:Its good but looks very cluttered with the pictures on the right on the actually page.
+===Example===
+''XCOM: Enemy Unknown'' is the 2012 remake of the classic game ''[[XCOM|UFO: Enemy Unknown]]'' or ''X-COM: UFO Defense'' in North America. If you'd like to contribute please check the [[Wiki Tips (EU2012)|Wiki Tips]] page for useful information on how to edit pages, etc. And also check the [[Talk:Enemy_Unknown_(EU2012)|Discussion]] section of this page or the [[To Do List (EU2012)|To Do]] list.
+<table style="padding-left:20px;">
+<tr style="vertical-align: top;">
+<td colspan = "5">
+{| {{stdTable}} title = "XCOM: Enemy Unknown (2012)" width = "100%"
+|- {{stdTable Heading}}
+| colspan = "5" | '''XCOM: Enemy Unknown (2012) / Enemy Within DLC [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px]]'''
+|-
+|}
+</td>
+</tr>
+<tr style="vertical-align: top;">
+<td style="width:220px; border:1px gray solid;">
+{| {{stdTable}} width="100%" style="border:none;"
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Vigilo_Confido_black.png|30px]] '''Overview'''
+|-
+| [[Info (EU2012)|Game Information]]
+: [[XCOM (EU2012)|Commander's Briefing]]
+: [[XCOM_Base_Location_(EU2012)|Base Location]]
+: [[The Council (EU2012)|The Council]]
+: [[Difficulty (EU2012)|Difficulty Levels]]
+:: [[Second Wave (EU2012)|Second Wave]]
+: [[Achievements (EU2012)|Achievements]]
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Vigilo_Confido_black.png|30px]] '''XCOM'''
+|-
+| [[XCOM Headquarters (EU2012)|Headquarters]]
+|-
+| [[Mission Control (EU2012)|Mission Control]]
+: [[Research (EU2012)|Research]]
+:: [[Genetics Lab (EU2012)|Genetics Lab]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+: [[Engineering (EU2012)|Engineering]]
+:: [[Foundry_(EU2012)|Foundry]]
+::: [[S.H.I.V. (EU2012)|S.H.I.V.]]
+:: [[Cybernetics Lab (EU2012)|Cybernetics Lab]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|E1W DLC]]
+:[[Barracks (EU2012)|Barracks]]
+:: [[OTS_(EU2012)| Officer Training School]]
+:: [[Memorial (EU2012)|Memorial]]
+: [[Hangar (EU2012)|Hangar]]
+: [[Situation Room (EU2012)|Situation Room]]
+:: [[Gray Market (EU2012)|Gray Market]]
+:: [[Finances (EU2012)|Finances]]
+:: [[Covert Operations (EU2012)|Covert Operations]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+|-
+|}
+</td>
+<td style="width: 220px; border:1px gray solid;">
+{| {{stdTable}} width="100%" style="border:none;"
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[Image:Lone_Wolf_(EU2012).jpg|30px]] '''Soldiers'''
+|-
+| [[Soldiers (EU2012)|Soldiers]]
+: [[Classes (EU2012)|Classes]]
+:: [[Assault (EU2012)|Assault]]
+:: [[Heavy (EU2012)|Heavy]]
+:: [[Sniper (EU2012)|Sniper]]
+:: [[Support (EU2012)|Support]]
+:: [[Psionic (EU2012)|Psionic]]
+:: [[MEC Trooper (EU2012)|MEC Trooper]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+: [[Armor (EU2012)|Armor]]
+: [[Equipment (EU2012)#Portable Equipment|Equipment]]
+: [[Weapons (EU2012)|Weapons]]
+: [[Gene Mods (EU2012)|Gene Mods]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+: [[Medals (EU2012)|Medals]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+: [[Covert Operative (EU2012)|Covert Operative]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+|-
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Head red 2.png|30px]] '''Aliens'''
+|-
+| [[Alien Life Forms (EU2012)|Alien Life Forms]]
+:[[Overviews of Aliens (EU2012)|Overview of Aliens]]
+:[[Alien Stats (EU2012)|Alien Stats]]
+|-
+| [[UFOs (EU2012)|UFOs]]
+|-
+|[[Alien Artifacts (EU2012)|Alien Artifacts]]
+: [[Meld (EU2012)|Meld]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:EXALT Insignia (EU2012).png|25px]] '''EXALT''' [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+|-
+|
+[[EXALT (EU2012)|EXALT]]
+: [[EXALT Units (EU2012)|Soldiers]]
+: [[EXALT Weapons (EU2012)|Equipment]]
+|}
+</td>
+<td style="width: 220px; border:1px gray solid;">
+{| {{stdTable}} width="100%" style="border:none;"
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Skyranger Pilot (EU2012).png|30px]] '''Missions'''
+|-
+| [[Gameplay Mechanics (EU2012)|Gameplay Mechanics]]
+: [[Chance to Hit (EU2012)|Chance to Hit]]
+: [[Cover (EU2012)|Cover]]
+: [[Critical Wounds (EU2012)|Critical Wounds]]
+: [[Flanking (EU2012)|Flanking]]
+: [[Overwatch (EU2012)|Overwatch]]
+: [[Suppression (EU2012)|Suppression]]
+[[Tactics (EU2012)|Combat Tactics]]
+: [[Squads (EU2012)| Squads]]
+[[Missions (EU2012)|Mission Types]]
+: [[Mission Names (EU2012)|Mission Names]]
+: [[After Action Report (EU2012)|After Action Report]]
+[[Maps (EU2012)|Maps]]
+: [[Map Tables (EU2012)|Tables]]
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Bradford Small (EU2012).png|30px]] '''Guides & Tips'''
+|-
+|
+[[Continent Bonus Analysis (EU2012)|Continent Bonus Analysis]]
+[[Air Combat (EU2012)|Air Combat]]
+[[Survival Guide (EU2012)|Survival Guide]]
+[[Building Optimization]]
+[[Economy]]
+[[Panic (EU2012)|Panic]]
+[[Storyline Missions (EU2012)|Story Walkthrough]]
+[[Class Builds (EU2012)|Class Builds]]
+[[Classic vs Impossible (EU2012)|Classic vs Impossible]]
+[[Abilities (EU2012)|List of all Abilities]]
+|}
+</td>
+<td style="width:220px; border:1px gray solid;">
+{| {{stdTable}} width="100%" style="border:none;"
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Shen Small (EU2012).png|30px]] '''General DLC'''
+|-
+|
+[[DLC (EU2012)|General Information]]
+: [[Elite Soldier Pack DLC (EU2012)|Elite Soldier Pack]]
+: [[XCOM: Enemy Within DLC (EU2012)|Enemy Within]] [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:New Friend (EU2012).jpg|30px]] '''Slingshot DLC'''
+|-
+|
+[[Slingshot DLC (EU2012)|Operation Slingshot]]
+: [[Friends in Low Places (EU2012)|Friends in Low Places]]
+: [[Confounding Light (EU2012)|Confounding Light]]
+: [[Gangplank (EU2012)|Gangplank]]
+: [[Shaojie Zhang (EU2012)|Shaojie Zhang]]
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Saved to Savior (EU2012).jpg|30px]] '''Progeny''' [[File:Meld Insignia (EU2012).png|20px|EW DLC]]
+|-
+|
+[[Progeny (EU2012)|Operation Progeny]]
+: [[Portent (EU2012)|Portent]]
+: [[Deluge (EU2012)|Deluge]]
+: [[Furies (EU2012)|Furies]]
+: [[Annette Durand (EU2012)|Annette Durand]]
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Meet New People Then Kill Them (EU2012).jpg|30px]] '''Multiplayer'''
+|-
+|
+[[Multiplayer (EU2012)|Multiplayer]]
+: [[Maps (EU2012)|Maps]]
+: [[Multiplayer Tactics (EU2012)|Multiplayer Tactics]]
+: [[Multiplayer Builds (EU2012)|Squad Builds]]
+|}
+</td>
+<td style="width:220px; border:1px gray solid;">
+{| {{stdTable}} width="100%" style="border:none;"
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Happy to Oblige (EU2012).jpg|30px]] '''Miscellaneous'''
+|-
+|
+[[Game Credits (EU2012)|Game Credits]]
+[[Storyline (EU2012)|Storyline]]
+[[News Items (EU2012)|News Ticker]]
+[[Game Universe (EU2012)|Game Universe/Artwork]]
+[[Hero (EU2012)|XCOM Heroes]]
+[[Making The Game Harder (EU2012)|Making The Game Harder]]
+[[Glossary|Glossary of Terms]]
+[[Murphy's Laws (X-COM)#Strategic (Enemy Unknown)|Murphy's Laws (XCOM)]]
+|- {{stdTable Sub Heading}}
+| [[File:Combat Ready (EU2012).jpg|30px]] '''Technical Information'''
+|-
+|
+[[Patches (EU2012)| Patches]]
+[[Bugs (EU2012)| Bugs]]
+[[Mods (EU2012)| Mods & Suggestions]]
+[[Game Editors (EU2012)|Game Editors]]
+[[Game Files (EU2012)|Game Files]]
+[[Unused Features (EU2012)|Unused Features]]
+[[Wiki Tips (EU2012)|Wiki Tips]]
+|}
+</td>
+</tr>
+</table>
+Should we seperate stuff that is actually to do with the base and gameplay from the difficulty and achievements?--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51]] 18:31, 27 December 2013 (EST)
+: To Miscellaneous? [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 19:22, 27 December 2013 (EST)
+:: The Original X-COM had a general information section and an X-COM organisation section for the base and soldiers. So I meant make another heading and split it into anything that is controllable in game like the base and units and a section for difficulty and Achievements.--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51]] 13:14, 28 December 2013 (EST)
+:::What do you think of the above changes? [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 14:46, 28 December 2013 (EST)
+::::That looks a lot better--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51]] ([[User talk:Ditto51|talk]]) 08:01, 29 December 2013 (EST)
+===EU2012 Table Discussion===
+Can we please discuss any changes to the table before changing it individually?
+* [[Abilities (EU2012)]] should stay under Miscellaneous section since it is nothing more than a list of all abilities
+* Why did [[Murphy's Laws (X-COM)]] go to Miscellaneous?
+* [[Continent Bonus Analysis (EU2012)]] is a redundant page with Starting Locations and the whole '''Guides and Tips''' section is going to be reworked (see above post), so if you think something is missing better to discuss it there. [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] ([[User talk:Hobbes|talk]]) 16:55, 2 January 2014 (EST)
+:*I moved The Abilities because people can use it to decide on how to combat the various aliens or how to use them in multiplayer.~
+::The individual alien pages and the [[Overviews of Aliens (EU2012)]] are already meant to detail specific aspects of the aliens. The Abilities page is nothing more than a list of abilities for technical aspects (modding, etc.) and for reference (since it contains obsolete abilities).
+:*I moved [[Murphy's Laws (X-COM)]] to Miscellaneous because it isn't really a guide or tips it is more of a list of worst case scenarios that can and probably will go wrong because of the RNG, it doesn't really offer any type of guide.
+::If you have a document describing what can go wrong, doesn't it act as a guide to help people avoiding those bad case scenarios?
+:*Yeah, I made that because [[Talk:Situation Room (EU2012)#Bonus Analysis|of this]], either way none of it belonged on the Situation Room page where it was originally.
+:--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51]] ([[User talk:Ditto51|talk]]) 17:03, 2 January 2014 (EST)
+::It was listed on the Situation Room because it is the place where you launch satellites and cover continents with them. But there's no point in having two separate Starting Base Location and Continental Bonuses Analyses with the same content. Both should be merged on the same page. [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] ([[User talk:Hobbes|talk]]) 17:21, 2 January 2014 (EST)
+:::First and Last I will submit to because what you say make sense, but the majority of the Murphy's Laws are things that can't be avoided or rely heavily on the RNG, like "if you have a 99% or less you will miss". That can't be avoided, much like lots of them.--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51]] ([[User talk:Ditto51|talk]]) 17:31, 2 January 2014 (EST)
+Why is Flanking on the table if it just a redirect to the Cover Page which is already on the table?--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51]] ([[User talk:Ditto51|talk]]) 13:49, 9 January 2014 (EST)
+:I think I had noticed that a while ago but forgot about it. Remove it? [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] ([[User talk:Hobbes|talk]]) 21:45, 9 January 2014 (EST)
+::I'm not actually sure, it is still a gameplay mechanic even if it is a redirect.--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51]] ([[User talk:Ditto51|talk]]) 04:18, 10 January 2014 (EST)
+:::Its pointless to have repeated links on the main table IMO. If the topic requires a page, then one should be written before the link is added to the table. [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] ([[User talk:Hobbes|talk]]) 06:56, 10 January 2014 (EST)
+I'd like to propose 2 additional links to the table: [[Alien Deployment (EU2012)|Alien Deployment]] and [[Damage (EU2012)|Damage]] [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] ([[User talk:Hobbes|talk]]) 14:55, 24 January 2014 (EST)
+:No comments here, so bump this thread. I've been checking the site stats and the [[Hero (EU2012)|Hero]] page is one of the top 20 EU2012 pages being visited so it might make some sense to add it as well.
+::Still no comments, so I'll go and change it. I'm also finishing the Strategy page, although it will also imply a rewrite/elimination of several existing pages since I centralized there a lot of dispersed info and there's no point in having repeated info. [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] ([[User talk:Hobbes|talk]]) 12:00, 5 February 2014 (EST)
+== Enemy Unknown (2012) ==
+''XCOM: Enemy Unknown'' это ремейк 2012 года классической игры ''[[XCOM|UFO: Enemy Unknown]]'' или ''X-COM: UFO Defense'' в Северной Америке. If you'd like to contribute please check the [[Wiki Tips (EU2012)|Wiki Tips]] page for useful information on how to edit pages, etc. And also check the [[Talk:Enemy_Unknown_(EU2012)|Discussion]] section of this page or the [[To Do List (EU2012)|To Do]] list.
+:Привет! Are you proposing any changes to the EU2012 page? [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] ([[User talk:Hobbes|talk]]) 11:40, 12 January 2014 (EST)
+{{:EU2012_Table}}
+<gallery widths=200px heights=150px perrow=4>
+File:XCOM_squad.jpg|XCOM Cover
+File:Intro_screen (EU2012).jpg|Intro Screen
+File:XCOM Enemy Within Poster.png|Enemy Within poster
+File:EW Menu.png|Enemy Within Main Menu
+</gallery>
+{{StyleEU2012}}
+[[Category: Enemy Unknown (2012)]]